Status Meetings:2010-11-17:Log

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Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-11-17 15:48:26 -0500

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15:48  » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.
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16:03 ardissone: doesn't look like anyone else is around today
16:03 ardissone: sam is enroute to Germany
16:03 ardissone: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-11-17:Agenda
16:03 pinkerton: waves at smorgan
16:04 ardissone: stating the obvious: no meeting next week
16:04 pinkerton:  :)
16:04 ardissone: i'll be offline the entire week
16:04 pinkerton: i think i've seen 5 airport gowalla checkins per day from sam in the last week
16:04 pinkerton: i'm not sure if he actually spends any time at his destination, or just immediately gets on another plane
16:04 ardissone: yeah, he seems to be travelling around the country like mad
16:05 pinkerton: any idea what he's doing?
16:05 ardissone: he's been doing server stuff during layovers :P
16:05 pinkerton: ok
16:05 ardissone: but other than that and racking up frequent flyer points, I know no method to the current madness ;)
16:06 ardissone: Maybe he's working for Langley :P
16:06 ardissone: "The Secret Life of Samuel Sidler"
16:06 ardissone: anyway…
16:06 ardissone: 2.0.6 yesterday
16:07 ardissone: aside from the usual crazies, I haven't seen anything bad reported
16:07 ardissone: which is good, because the scope of changes was somewhat limited to begin with ;)
16:08 ardissone: stuart reported that yesterday's self-selecting 2.0.6 users were 81% on latest Flash
16:08 ardissone: 2.0.x in general has broken 50%
16:09 pinkerton: we've started getting a few more "you guys are awesome" emails than usual
16:09 ardissone: so flash-check plus OS updates is working
16:09 ardissone:  :D
16:09 ardissone: usage seems to be on a slow rise back from summer lows
16:10 ardissone: in terms of crashes, there were only 21 last night
16:11 ardissone: looks like we're up to 119 now
16:11 ardissone: Flash 10.1, KBL took top honors
16:11 ardissone: then the 1passwd crash
16:12 ardissone: those users (user?) are definitely using a newer 1p version (only the Scripting Addition, not the old 1PasswdIM, is loaded)
16:13 ardissone: I don't know if it's worth the work to detect that and warn or not
16:15 ardissone: i also looked back at 2.0.5, and crashes dropped 50% in the last week; not sure what happened there
16:16 ardissone: smorgan: we do have an email now for a lastpass + tabView crash user
16:16 smorgan: Cool, can you send it to me?
16:17 ardissone: will do
16:17 ardissone: anything else on 2.0.6?
16:19 smorgan: nope
16:19 ardissone: we have a couple of bugs on the plate for 2.0.7
16:20 ardissone: KBL if we get a1 out first
16:20 ardissone: Flashblock upgrade
16:20 ardissone: steven's fix for the JEP regression (broken game sites)
16:21 ardissone: anything else on that?
16:21 smorgan: nope
16:22 ardissone: on 2.1
16:22 ardissone: smorgan: how are we in general on autocomplete/location bar typing?
16:23 smorgan: I need pink to review my history refactor
16:23 smorgan: Then I'll update based on that, and expect we can go forward with that patch
16:23 pinkerton: hrm, i didn't see anything in my rss feed
16:23 smorgan: Leaving a bunch of follow-ups
16:24 ardissone: but wip8 is more-or-less where we will be for a1?
16:24 pinkerton: is it not updating again?
16:24 smorgan: pinkerton: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=610658
16:24 smorgan: ardissone: I believe so, yes
16:24 ardissone: ok
16:24 pinkerton: 92k!?
16:24 ardissone: haha
16:24 pinkerton: f- me
16:24 smorgan: pinkerton: I'll make a note to check your feed
16:24 smorgan: pinkerton: read the bug
16:24 smorgan: I gave you six smaller patches
16:24 pinkerton: i'll do it later, i'm in the middle of 3 different things now
16:25 smorgan: With clear (hopefully) changes
16:25 pinkerton: heh
16:25 pinkerton: ok thanks
16:25 smorgan: The 92k is a composite patch I don't expect you to actually review
16:25 pinkerton: k
16:26 ardissone: i don't know if you can get the right stuff out of your git tree and into hg or not
16:26 smorgan:  ?
16:26 ardissone: but it might really make sense sanity-/blame-wise
16:26 ardissone: to land the pieces
16:26 ardissone: rather than a smfr-esque "rewrite history" patch
16:26 smorgan: Oh. I'm not super-excited about the idea of landing the pieces
16:27 smorgan: As I mentioned in the bug, there are temporary hacks and outright bugs in intermediate states
16:27 ardissone: ok
16:27 smorgan: It's not smfr-esque in that it really does one thing: splits one class into two
16:28 smorgan: It doesn't also change 3 other mostly unrelated behaviors in different code ;)
16:28 ardissone: haha
16:28 ardissone: i guess also if we ever need more granularity, the patches will be in the bug
16:28 smorgan: Right
16:28 ardissone: ok
16:29 ardissone: so after autocomplete/typing we have a couple of focus bugs we're planning on blocking a1 on
16:29 ardissone: we discussed that last meeting, and twiddled the flags
16:30 smorgan: Hopefully I can look at focus this weekend; we'll see
16:30 ardissone: speaking of focus, did you see my comment in the last Flash window dealloc crash bug?
16:31 ardissone: about the 2.0.x Flash 10.2 crashes
16:31 ardissone: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577567#c11
16:32 ardissone: (there are also lots of users running 2.0.2 (from Feb!) and Flash 10.1 and hitting that bug and complaining :P not my fault they haven't upgraded Camino in 9 mos :/ )
16:33 smorgan: I saw that they were there; not much we can do without steps I think
16:33 ardissone: yeah
16:33 ardissone: bizarre that it's back, but hopefully it'll be really low volume or we'll get reliable STR
16:34 ardissone: or just ship 2.1 ;)
16:34 ardissone: to use smorgan's favorite phrase
16:34 ardissone: anything else on 2.1/a1 ?
16:35 smorgan: Still hoping we can have all the blockers done by the end of the month :)
16:36 ardissone:  :)
16:36 ardissone: in terms of the queues, things are better this week
16:36 ardissone: ilya cleared his, in spite of xcode/xcodebuuild still hanging when building
16:37 ardissone: (and we really ran out of ideas; it kept hanging the OS in a slightly later place in the build each time)
16:38 ardissone: the r queue is now mostly hendy and smorgan, and smorgan's commented in most of his that have been waiting a while
16:38 ardissone: i'll try to touch base with hendy again before i go offline
16:38 smorgan: This weekend and/or tuesday I should be able to clear my queue
16:39 ardissone:  :)
16:39 ardissone: we're in pretty good shape with the server migration
16:40 ardissone: sam's waiting to hear back from the host about SSL and some stuff with logging
16:41 ardissone: i don't know if we'll be able to find time when we're both online to move end-of-week, or if Sam will have to do it himself next week
16:43 ardissone: i think that's all I have this week
16:44 ardissone: anyone have anything else?
16:45 ardissone: ok then
16:46 ardissone: everyone please work on 2.1/a1 bugs/reviews and have a good two weeks :)
16:46 ardissone: don't eat too much turkey, and see you in december :)
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