Status Meetings:2009-04-22:Log
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[02:31am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv. [02:31am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-04-22:Agenda". [10:22am] peeja joined the chat room. [11:58am] murph_ joined the chat room. [12:03pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:11pm] murph_ was promoted to operator by you. [12:12pm] peeja was promoted to operator by you. [12:12pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:12pm] hendy joined the chat room. [12:12pm] jeff joined the chat room. [12:12pm] jeff was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:12pm] hendy was promoted to operator by you. [12:12pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging. [12:13pm] pinkerton joined the chat room. [12:13pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by chanserv. [12:13pm] jeff: oye [12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: are we missing anyone? [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: ok [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone please open http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-04-22:Agenda in your Camino 2.0b2 or newer [12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: b2 is running at about 7wks now [12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: crashes have been pretty steady [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: more random-hex than I'd like, but they're largely single-line stacks [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: so nothing really we can do [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone else have anything on b2? [12:17pm] jeff: no word of crashes from my parents [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: they haven't hit the bookmark-hang either? [12:18pm] jeff: if I have not gotten a frantic phonecall, then no [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: that's good [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: 1.6.7 [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: we've just about hit the end of my ability to sanely track the crashers [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing interesting in the crashes, either [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on 1.6.7? [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: nothing really new on 1.6.8, either [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: cl made a second patch for the "can't show cookies" bug [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: that's sort of a bullet-proof work-around [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: so we'll take that for 1.6.8 [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: but that's the only thing we have so far [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: probably another 5-6 weeks before the next Gecko release [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: Summer of Code! [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: results were announced mon [12:23pm] jeff: where is our student? [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: we have a student, Daniel Weber [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: we've not seen him yet [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: did he say he'd stop by and start community bonding? [12:24pm] smorgan: Yes, he should be visiting IRC at some point [12:24pm] smorgan: He couldn't make the meeting [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: (work actually begins 23 may) [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: k [12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: we'll throw a big irc party in his honor when he does [12:26pm] pinkerton: [12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone can see the abstract of his proposal at the [1] link on today's agenda [12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: (it blows the pants off the abstract of the project pink is mentoring ) [12:26pm] pinkerton: hotness [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: once we get him a wiki password, i have the page ready for him to add his full proposal [12:27pm] pinkerton: need food badly. brb. [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: mmm, food [12:27pm] smorgan: (Just don't shoot the food) [12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: on to the 2.0 reports? [12:28pm] ardissone|foraging: murph_: phishing news? [12:29pm] murph_: ardissone|foraging: Mostly, I need to update the safe browsing bar patch, which I'll be finishing real soon [12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: if we go with Sam's urls in the other patch, there'll be no problem (not having a real 'page')? [12:31pm] murph_: Nope, those URLs should work fine [12:31pm] murph_: I'll make sure though [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: k [12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: what's next after the bar? reporting sites you suspect are phishing but aren't blocked? [12:33pm] murph_: Yeah, I actually hadn't decided myself what's next, so I can definitely implement that. [12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: since that will require UI, at least [12:34pm] ardissone|foraging: the tabs patch is waiting on pinkerton ? [12:36pm] murph_: Yes, I fixed up the indentation problem and it's ready for SR [12:36pm] ardissone|foraging: have you seen the latest comments (this week) on the 10.4 bugs? [12:37pm] pinkerton: ok i'll look [12:38pm] murph_: I did notice the comments. The good thing is that I have my 10.4 machine again so I'll actually try to reproduce them myself [12:38pm] ardissone|foraging: sounds good [12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: !seen NSControl [12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: aka [12:39pm] ardissone|foraging: jeff: how's Tabsposé? [12:39pm] jeff: errr I need to resuscitate the body ... my finals are over tomorrow [12:40pm] jeff: so after that I am class free for 2 months [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: [12:40pm] ardissone|foraging: good luck on your last finals! [12:41pm] ardissone|foraging: but that means we should start seeing some patches from you? [12:41pm] You are now known as ardissone. [12:41pm] jeff: yes exactly [12:41pm] ardissone: excellent! [12:41pm] jeff: my ToDo list is almost at zero, so looking better [12:42pm] ardissone: remember: Adam Savage is depending on you to help manage his tabs [12:43pm] jeff: thats a good way to look at it! [12:43pm] ardissone: smorgan: tearing through breakpad integration [12:43pm] smorgan: indeed [12:43pm] smorgan: The sucorro support landed upstream, but is broken [12:43pm] ardissone: heh [12:43pm] smorgan: I'm fixing it and then I'll do our update [12:44pm] ardissone: and how's the l10n stuff? [12:44pm] smorgan: Comment upload also appears not to be missing a piece, which I'll investigate [12:44pm] smorgan: I've started, but kept getting sidetracked [12:44pm] ardissone: k [12:44pm] smorgan: Definitely this week [12:45pm] ardissone: sounds good [12:45pm] smorgan: I looked at symbols, and it looks like we can use at the very least the python script core uses to generate symbols for everything [12:45pm] smorgan: We may even be able to use their makefile target, but I need to see if we can override what we need [12:45pm] smorgan: Our debug symbol locations are a bit wonky relative to what they expect [12:45pm] ardissone: heh [12:46pm] smorgan: So hopefully either way we can have symbols by the end of the week [12:46pm] smorgan: I still need to resolve the dump_syms issue though [12:46pm] smorgan: I may do a check-in for the short-term [12:46pm] ardissone: (do they not have the same path problem with PrintPDE and other native projects?) [12:47pm] smorgan: The problem is dSYM, which afaict they don't use on the 1.9.0 branch [12:47pm] smorgan: Unless there is a special target I'm missing [12:47pm] ardissone: ah [12:47pm] smorgan: I think they do on trunk though given some comments I've seen floating around [12:47pm] ardissone: i think i've seen that, too [12:47pm] smorgan: Anyway, replicating the target with slight mods is no big deal [12:48pm] ardissone: sounds good [12:48pm] smorgan: It's just a script invocation and a bit of directory and zip twiddling [12:48pm] smorgan: I'll have to figure out how to do uploading without being able to test it [12:48pm] smorgan: I guess copy their call and hope it works on the tinderbox [12:49pm] ardissone: heh [12:49pm] ardissone: well, tinderbox did do upload for fx3a/b [12:49pm] smorgan: Anyway, hopefully by next week sometime we'll have something much more like a working breakpad setup end to end [12:50pm] ardissone: [12:50pm] ilya joined the chat room. [12:50pm] ilya was promoted to operator by you. [12:50pm] smorgan: I used about:crashes three times this morning [12:50pm] ardissone: as you can see, we also have topcrashers [12:50pm] ardissone: [12:51pm] ardissone: one possibly slightly confusing thing is that delete only deletes submitted reports [12:51pm] smorgan: We could muck around with that JS if we wanted to add more stuff [12:51pm] ardissone: yeah, or just change the .properties to make it more clear [12:52pm] ardissone: since that text comes from .properties [12:52pm] ardissone: on that note [12:52pm] ardissone: anyone with js/DOM skills, please take up the mantle of finishing the l10n [12:53pm] ardissone: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489512 [12:53pm] ardissone: i hooked up the stringbundle fine, but I fail at JS [12:54pm] ardissone: besides about:crashes, i've been hacking a few other smaller bits on breakpad for us [12:55pm] ardissone: hendy: welcome back (again) [12:55pm] hendy: thanks [12:56pm] ardissone: how do UTF-8, Flashblock, and your review stand? [12:56pm] hendy: i'm pretty much caught up with my non-Camino stuff, so i should be getting back into coding today [12:56pm] ardissone: k [12:56pm] hendy: i'll get a flashblock patch submitted today, and start on my review [12:57pm] ardissone: [12:57pm] hendy: need that review from nick before making more progress on utf-8 [12:57pm] ardissone: ok, we should poke him when we see him [12:59pm] hendy: there are other 2.0 bugs i can work on in the meantime [12:59pm] ardissone: cool [1:00pm] ardissone: also, we have a bunch of new scripts taking advantage of the AS stuff hendy added [1:00pm] hendy: yeah, i need to get DOM source hooked up some time too [1:00pm] hendy: that's lower priority ATM, though [1:02pm] ardissone: k [1:02pm] ardissone: our 2.0 and 2.0? bugs are still pretty high [1:02pm] ardissone: ilya: any downloading (or other) news from you [1:03pm] ilya: I'll try to get a couple of keyboard-accessibility patches filed today [1:03pm] ilya: for the downloads window [1:03pm] ardissone: k [1:03pm] ilya: actually, as long as a bunch of us are here, what do people think of https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472709 ? [1:03pm] ilya: there are some objections to cmd-o [1:04pm] ilya: is everyone happy with cmd-down arrow? [1:04pm] ardissone: pinkerton: ^^^ [1:04pm] pinkerton: looking [1:08pm] ardissone: ilya: (did you ever look into the can't drag more than one item bug?) [1:08pm] ilya: which is that? [1:09pm] pinkerton: i'm fine with cmd-downarrow [1:09pm] ardissone: looking [1:09pm] pinkerton: it's what the finder uses [1:09pm] ardissone: ilya: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461901 [1:09pm] ilya: yeah, finder uses both cmd-o and cmd-downarrow [1:10pm] jeff left the chat room. [1:10pm] ardissone: sounds like cmd-down-arrow it is [1:10pm] ilya: k [1:10pm] ardissone: has anyone thought more about bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452557 [1:10pm] ardissone: (toggle for text zoom/default keystrokes) [1:10pm] ilya: ardissone: I'll take a look at that [1:12pm] ilya: I'm all for adding that [1:13pm] ilya: if that's the question [1:14pm] ardissone: well [1:14pm] ardissone: we need to come back to it next week, i guess [1:14pm] ardissone: one ominous thing [1:15pm] ardissone: Ts on boxset and minus has been steadily creeping up since breakpad [1:16pm] ardissone: (possibly cb-x1, too, but it's not as noticeable if so) [1:17pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else this week? [1:19pm] ardissone: ok, then; sorry about late start/running long [1:19pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week and work on those patches and reviews :)