Status Meetings:2009-09-23:Log
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[02:27am] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ. [02:27am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-09-23:Agenda". [02:27am] cl|zzz was promoted to operator by you. [06:47am] cl|zzz is now known as cl. [07:14am] cl left the chat room. (Quit: cl) [12:00pm] smorgan joined the chat room. [12:04pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you. [12:04pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging. [12:07pm] kreeger joined the chat room. [12:07pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you. [12:08pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: we expecting pink? [12:17pm] smorgan: Sorry, too many windows. I'll check [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe [12:19pm] kreeger left the chat room. (Quit: kreeger) [12:21pm] smorgan: I guess we should start and see if he shows up [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: or, say, anyone else [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-09-23:Agenda [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: er, crap [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: brb, have to shut windows [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: ok [12:23pm] You are now known as ardissone. [12:23pm] ardissone: b4 [12:23pm] ardissone: Chrome got some nice press from our release [12:23pm] smorgan: haha [12:24pm] ardissone: Crashes look pretty good so far, though we have not yet a week of them [12:24pm] ardissone: Flash is back at #1 [12:24pm] ardissone: #2 is our friend nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton [12:24pm] ardissone: every one that i looked at (but didn't look at all of them) had the GD intercept dylib in the stack [12:25pm] ardissone: haven't seen that crash in a while [12:25pm] ardissone: wondering if the new buttons might be triggering it [12:25pm] smorgan: Did you notice what OS versions? [12:26pm] ardissone: not really, no [12:26pm] smorgan: checks... [12:26pm] ardissone: all 10.4.11 [12:26pm] smorgan: Yep, that's what I expected [12:26pm] smorgan: So at least we won't be getting more over time [12:26pm] ardissone: ppcs are all one build behind final [12:27pm] ardissone: ok, that's good [12:27pm] ardissone: i'll keep an eye on it and hope it doesn't keep rising [12:27pm] ardissone: #3 is the Flash+Exposé bug [12:28pm] ardissone: it looks like Adobe is starting to look at it [12:28pm] ardissone: lots of crashes tied for #4 so far [12:28pm] ardissone: nsWebShell::Release() (2 are validating back button; all near startup) [12:29pm] ardissone: objc_msgSend | __delayedPerformCleanup is interesting only in that it eventually has nsAppShell::ProcessNextNativeEvent on the stack [12:29pm] ardissone: and the appshell runloop functions have historically been buggy in the 2.* [12:29pm] ardissone: [12:30pm] ardissone: nsCacheService::OpenCacheEntry related to fetching bookmark icons [12:30pm] ardissone: dunno if something we are doing "wrong" is triggering that, or if their cache is just busted? [12:31pm] smorgan: Not sure [12:32pm] ardissone: we'll see how it sorts out next week with more crashes, I guess [12:33pm] ardissone: smichaud's still terminating us with uncaught exceptions, now on 10.5.8 [12:33pm] ardissone: [12:33pm] smorgan: Was there a Java update, or is it the new JEP? [12:33pm] ardissone: there was a java update a month or so ago [12:34pm] ardissone: it's also possible that the new JEP doesn't work with older Java [12:34pm] ardissone: actually, i think there's also an open bug about JavaFX; I forget how it crashes [12:35pm] ardissone: i'll try to look that up [12:35pm] ardissone: the good news, so far, is that -[NSApp sendEvent:] is way down at the moment [12:35pm] ardissone: and that the _objc_error/_objc_trap crashes are also essentially non-existant [12:36pm] ardissone: so hopefully that patch helped both cases [12:36pm] ardissone: we'll see [12:36pm] ardissone: oh, forgot to mention [12:36pm] ardissone: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0b4 [12:37pm] ardissone: we only have 5 urls though, out of 90 crashes [12:37pm] smorgan: Huh [12:38pm] ardissone: and no way inside the black box [12:39pm] ardissone: 1.6.9 crashes seem to still be low [12:39pm] ardissone: of course we only have PPC [12:39pm] ardissone: Basically plug-ins [12:39pm] ardissone: 1.6.10, everything's in place now [12:40pm] ardissone: just need to tag and spin; may not be until the weekend [12:41pm] ardissone: any dan sightings recently? [12:41pm] smorgan: Before long, everyone using 1.6 should be PPC, so any Intel crashes we don't know about will be moot [12:43pm] smorgan: I heard from dan recently [12:43pm] smorgan: He's still planning on updating patches, just really busy with school [12:43pm] ardissone: k [12:44pm] ardissone: on to 2.0 [12:44pm] ardissone: any reply from josh about the black hole? [12:44pm] smorgan: He said he'd try to post a patch this week [12:44pm] ardissone: k [12:45pm] ardissone: code freeze was last night; i forget how long sam said the tree would be closed then, 3wks? [12:45pm] smorgan: Ouch [12:46pm] ardissone: we'll play it by ear [12:46pm] ardissone: Tabsposé is the big thing we have left; like to get the keyboard and focus bugs fixed for 2.0 [12:47pm] ardissone: only lisa has commented on the zoom increment change so far; she likes it [12:47pm] ardissone: no legitimate complaints on the new 10.5-style UI stuff [12:47pm] smorgan: I started playing with the keyboard loop a bit [12:47pm] ardissone: [12:49pm] ardissone: that's all i really have on 2.0; do you have anything other than "ship it!"? [12:49pm] smorgan: Have we let loose the hounds of localization? [12:50pm] ardissone: yes [12:50pm] smorgan: [12:50pm] ardissone: "Breakpad.nib isn't in English.lproj!" [12:50pm] ardissone: "Because it doesn't need to be; see my message about the freeze" [12:50pm] smorgan: And thank goodness for that [12:51pm] ardissone: Marcello said it took him a couple hours to move from a full b3 to b4 [12:51pm] ardissone: so anyone who had been working all along should be in good shape [12:52pm] ardissone: http://cl10n.rwx.it/node/122 [12:52pm] ardissone: the big one of worry is spanish [12:53pm] ardissone: Ernesto has been upstreaming Sparkle translations, so I assume he's doing some work, but ... [12:54pm] ardissone: other than that, we fixed two bugs last week; they were the two that needed fixing, so that was good [12:55pm] ardissone: but we seem to be a little light on manpower right now ;) [12:56pm] ardissone: froodian came by friday to sing the praises of our work [12:57pm] ardissone: smorgan: anything else? [12:57pm] smorgan: nope [12:57pm] ardissone: ok then :) [12:58pm] ardissone: have a good week, and keep on fixing those bugs :) [12:58pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by ChanServ. [12:58pm] ardissone: we could almost have had this meeting last night [12:58pm] smorgan: heh [12:59pm] smorgan left the chat room.