Status Meetings:2010-09-15:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-09-15 15:40:39 -0400

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15:40		» ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.
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16:00	ardissone:	pink?
16:00	smorgan:	y
16:00	ardissone:	so we can discuss how i broke his demo :(
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16:01	ardissone:	looks like no-one else today right now
16:01	ardissone:	sam may or may not be here; depends on the internet
16:02	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-09-15:Agenda
16:02	ardissone:	on 2.0.4
16:02	ardissone:	crashes have gotten up to about the level we've expected
16:03	ardissone:	now that we have a full two weeks of data
16:03	ardissone:	hopefully they'll hold
16:04	ardissone:	also, the tail end of the top 10 is more-or-less back to the usual suspects
16:04	ardissone:	except for the IME bug, which has a patch that had never landed on 1.9.0
16:05	ardissone:	anyone have anything else about 2.0.4?
16:07	ardissone:	we continue to see the end-of-summer return to Camino numbers, so it makes judging the fake update's effectiveness limited
16:07	ardissone:	on to 2.0.5, we said last week our goal was 2-3 weeks
16:07	smorgan:	I vote we time it for just after Adobe releases the critical update
16:07	ardissone:	pink cleared his srs this morning, so we have two of those bugs ready now :)
16:08	ardissone:	haha :)
16:08	smorgan:	So that if people do heed the warning, they aren't immediately hosed again
16:08	ardissone:	yeah
16:08	ardissone:	agreeed
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16:09	ardissone:	smorgan: have you learned any more about the KBL crash, besides the two signatures are the same crash?
16:09		» cl was promoted to operator by ardissone.
16:09	smorgan:	Not yet
16:09	ardissone:	ok
16:09	ardissone:	one of the things that Socorro 1.8 broke was displaying email addresses :(
16:10	ardissone:	hopefully they'll fix a bunch of bugs, including that, and push them in a week or so, rather than waiting 3 mos
16:11	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:2.0.5:Links is live now, which shows more-or-less the scope of 2.0.5
16:12	ardissone:	there's another Gecko bug people are complaining about that never landed on 1.9.0, the s/GetCurrentEventKeyModifiers/GetCurrentKeyModifiers/g bug
16:12	ardissone:	(aka Ctrl+Spaces+plug-ins on 10.6)
16:13	ardissone:	cl will get some people to test builds with it to make sure nothing obvious breaks, and then we can take it
16:15	ardissone:	i'll also try to go through the new security bugs in 1.9.1.12 and .13 and see what looks sane
16:15	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.x?
16:17	ardissone:	on 2.1, i don't think there's been much change since last week
16:17	ardissone:	aside from pink clearing his queue of patches that were there :)
16:17	smorgan:	Yeah, no updates from me I'm afraid :(
16:17	ardissone:	so swipe will be back tomorrow, and maybe murph will get to fix pinch, too
16:18	ardissone:	cpeterso is branching out from just menu validation bugs and fixing other things, too :)
16:18	ardissone:	cl still owes him a review on the validation patch ;)
16:18	ardissone:	while we're on the subject of validation
16:18	ardissone:	pinkerton: sorry i broke your demo
16:19	ardissone:	not sure if it's worth fixing though
16:20	pinkerton:	ardissone: :)
16:20	pinkerton:	oh?
16:20	pinkerton:	why not?
16:20	ardissone:	well, Gecko 2 killed content XUL
16:20	pinkerton:	ah
16:20	pinkerton:	well that's shit.
16:20	ardissone:	so, longer term, it won't work anywhere
16:21	ardissone:	(longer term == a few months for fx4 to appear :P )
16:21	pinkerton:	what's gecko2 going to ship with? ff4?
16:21	ardissone:	y
16:21	pinkerton:	suck
16:21	ardissone:	xul authors were understandably unhappy :P
16:22	ardissone:	in the shorter-term Camino case, besides me investigating chrome:// xul files, you're the only other person i've ever heard using that
16:22	smorgan:	And you can type view-source: in class
16:22	pinkerton:	heh
16:22	pinkerton:	i forgot about that
16:23	ardissone:	:(
16:23	ardissone:	and then zoom should work ;)
16:23	ardissone:	so, you guys make the call; I'm happy to do whatever
16:25	smorgan:	Doesn't matter to me
16:26	ardissone:	pinkerton: ^^^ ?
16:27	pinkerton:	eh, i guess i can just do view-source
16:27	ardissone:	(and ctrl+mousewheel/2fingers will probably zoom, too)
16:28	ardissone:	(since iirc that goes straight to Gecko)
16:28	ardissone:	ok
16:29	ardissone:	there's a possibility that the 10.6/mozsqlite patches will still happen; WeirdAl seemed interested (and posted a broken patch over the weekend)
16:30	ardissone:	if so, i'll push our other Core patches, and we can do the mozconfig work
16:30	ardissone:	and turn off IB stripping
16:31	ardissone:	but the current set of work-arounds does not appear to be too onerous, it seems
16:31	ardissone:	so mozsqlite is going to continue to not be one of my priorities
16:32	ardissone:	i'll continue hacking on things wherever I can, and investigating
16:33	ardissone:	beyond that, nothing specific from me; a few build patches in the works
16:34	ardissone:	smorgan: unless i missed it accidentally, still no 10.5-buildable patch for autocomplete, right? will you spin a new one after you land the trie files?
16:34	smorgan:	Argh, I forgot about that. Will do
16:35	ardissone:	thanks :)
16:35	ardissone:	so, on alpha 1 we are mostly where we were last week, with the addition of 2 sr+ patches now
16:37	ardissone:	anyone have anything else on 2.1/a1?
16:39	ardissone:	(nope, ctrl-2fingers gets routed through us somehow, so that doesn't actually work, even for full-content zoom)
16:39	ardissone:	(oh well)
16:40	ardissone:	ok, anyone have anything about anything else today?
16:40	smorgan:	Not me
16:40	pinkerton:	nope
16:41	ardissone:	oh, i forgot to mention
16:41	ardissone:	smorgan alluded to it
16:41	ardissone:	but we have a flash-update-check on welcome now (the page shown on first launch of a new version)
16:42	ardissone:	so hopefully we'll move our laggards along
16:42	ardissone:	and crash less ;)
16:42	pinkerton:	yay
16:42	pinkerton:	ok i gotta jet. l8r
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16:43	ardissone:	so kudos to smorgan for pushing that script through :)
16:43	ardissone:	and on that note, everyone have a good week, and please work on 2.0.5/2.1a1 bugs and reviews :)