Status Meetings:2010-10-13:Log

Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-10-13 15:29:06 -0400

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16:01	ardissone:	pinkerton: i think you're right; thebot is just broken
16:01	ardissone:	he doesn't do bugs any more, either
16:01	ardissone:	that at least was working a few days ago, though :P
16:02	pinkerton:	i got bugs working, iirc
16:02	pinkerton:	firebot seems to do better
16:02	ardissone:	maybe bugs broke last night
16:03	ardissone:	anyway
16:03	ardissone:	another rousing Camino meeting! http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-10-13:Agenda
16:04	ardissone:	we saw another 200-crash leap this week
16:04	ardissone:	half of that was Flash 10.0
16:05	ardissone:	the rest spread out mostly in KBL, Flash 10.1, and sendEvent: land
16:05	ardissone:	the bottom 5 rotated out again
16:06	ardissone:	the strange 10.4.11ppc-only font-related crash is persisting
16:07	ardissone:	still baffled about what might be causing it
16:07	pinkerton:	is there a better way to get folks up upgrade their flash? i noticed firefox has a start page that basically says "HOLY SHIT YOUR FLASH IS OUT OF DATE, YOU'RE GONNA DIE IF YOU DON'T CLICK HERE!!!!!"
16:07	ardissone:	we have that for welcome now
16:08	ardissone:	so people will see it with 2.0.5
16:08	ardissone:	it's problematic to put on /start/ though
16:08	ardissone:	(see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596135 for reasons)
16:09	ardissone:	but hopefully 2.0.5 will help push some people
16:10	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.4?
16:11	ardissone:	on stats, we've hit a wall
16:12	ardissone:	google's lowered the numbers of formulæ per sheet, and we've hit that hard
16:13	ardissone:	so i have nothing useful to say about that
16:13	ardissone:	on 2.0.5
16:13	ardissone:	didn't get a build this weekend
16:13	ardissone:	i've been busy, and we have some outstanding patches that need landing and whatnot
16:14	ardissone:	maybe this weekend
16:14	ardissone:	smorgan: any more insights on KBL, or were you all-history?
16:14	smorgan:	all history
16:15	ardissone:	k
16:15	ardissone:	cl saw a guy on twitter last night who gave up and went back to fx after 3 years because we were crashing too much :(
16:15	Jan:	oh :(
16:16	smorgan:	ardissone: once I get autocomplete to the point where we can ship an alpha I'll look at KBL again
16:16	ardissone:	ok, sounds good :)
16:18	smorgan:	Can you land my stuff for 2.0.5, btw?
16:18	smorgan:	If I haven't already asked
16:18	ardissone:	yeah, and no, you hadn't
16:19	ardissone:	will you get hg, or should I do those, too?
16:19	smorgan:	Oh right, I still have things to land on trunk don't I
16:19	smorgan:	I'll do that
16:19	ardissone:	k
16:20	ardissone:	i updated the 2.0.5 wiki page last night to track where we were
16:21	ardissone:	bloglines i assume we want to take
16:21	ardissone:	http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:2.0.5:Links#Need_decision_on_landing
16:21	ardissone:	ad-blocking's baked nicely
16:21	ardissone:	dunno if we want to do the VersionTracker removal or not
16:22	ardissone:	and my gut says minus the JS password thing for 2.0.5 and take it in 2.0.6 after it's had more time in the nightlies
16:22	smorgan:	Agreed
16:23	ardissone:	to which part(s)?
16:23	smorgan:	The last one
16:23	ardissone:	k
16:23	smorgan:	I don't care about the VT bookmark either way
16:23	smorgan:	We should axe bloglines
16:24	smorgan:	ad-blocking is fine with me if you are happy withit
16:24	ardissone:	pinkerton: do you have an opinion on axing the VT bookmark?
16:24	pinkerton:	go for it
16:24	ardissone:	ok
16:25	ardissone:	i'll working on branch landings of our bugs and the relnotes
16:25	ardissone:	and we'll try again for a build this weekend, pending my busy-ness
16:26	ardissone:	anything else on 2.0.5?
16:26	ardissone:	ok
16:27	ardissone:	on 2.1
16:27	ardissone:	new WIP from stuart :)
16:27	ardissone:	did i understand right there are perf improvements in general history loading?
16:28	smorgan:	Not really in history loading
16:28	smorgan:	The perf improvement is in building the autocomplete trie
16:28	ardissone:	oh
16:28	ardissone:	well, that's good, too :)
16:28	smorgan:	But the history menu and autocomplete now share a backend
16:28	ardissone:	that also sounds good
16:29	smorgan:	And once pink reviews the latest segment, I'm going to do some refactoring to make the manager partially share too
16:29	ardissone:	:)
16:29	ardissone:	speaking of reviews
16:30	ardissone:	pinkerton: the sr queue is all you again
16:30	smorgan:	So the history manager should load faster for people with big histories as long as they don't open it right after startup, once that's done
16:30	pinkerton:	yeah
16:30	ardissone:	somehow one patch is in there twice
16:30	ardissone:	not sure how smorgan tricked bugzilla into doing that ;)
16:30	smorgan:	I don't remember doing anything tricky
16:31	ardissone:	i think it just hiccuped
16:31	ardissone:	identical timestamps
16:31	smorgan:	fixed
16:31	ardissone:	was afriad to touch it for fear of killing both
16:32	ardissone:	cpeterso's taken one of the 2.1 bugs (autocomplete hover feedback)
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16:33	ardissone:	which is nice to see
16:33	ardissone:	that widget needs all the help it can get :P ;)
16:34	ardissone:	i've got patches or did fixes here and there; nothing really on 2.1 i can fix, i don't think
16:34	ardissone:	tagged cl with an incremental improvement to the view-source window size/position remembering thing that bugs me ;)
16:35	ardissone:	cl: any updates from you?
16:35	cl:	nope? :-p
16:35	cl:	i just sat down in my hotel room. i have no idea :-p
16:35	ardissone:	haha
16:36	ardissone:	are you going to keep trying to explore the tooltip/expansionframes bug?
16:37	ardissone:	no new 1.9.2 focus bugs appeared this week (knock on wood), which is nice :)
16:38	ardissone:	i guess that's about it on 2.1a1
16:39	ardissone:	i'll try to remember to ping murph again about the second part of the gestures, see if he has some time for that
16:39	cl:	Yeah, that's on my todo list this week
16:39	ardissone:	k
16:39	cl:	along with your review and a couple other bugs
16:39	ardissone:	:)
16:40	ardissone:	sounds good
16:40	cl:	I was gonna look at bug 550817
16:40	cl:	and I still have that applescript tooltip thing to look at, too
16:40	cl:	which was what got me started down this rathole in the first place :-p
16:40	ardissone:	haha
16:40	ardissone:	yeah
16:40	ardissone:	i tried looking at it, and that's what got me to the view-source bug :P
16:41	cl:	haha
16:41	cl:	at least *something* is getting accomplished
16:41	ardissone:	yeah ;)
16:41	ardissone:	philippe did a CLOSEME-tagging run over the weekend
16:41	ardissone:	so we should have about 20 bugs to close in a week
16:42	cl:	i saw that
16:42	ardissone:	but 20 is only < half of the 2010 UNCOs
16:42	ardissone:	so we do need to keep on that
16:42	cl:	i might have missed this earlier, but is there a reason we cleared the sr request on prefetch?
16:42	cl:	(bug 493474)
16:43	ardissone:	only the duplicate sr?
16:43	cl:	oh, nm, didn't notice that :-p
16:43	ardissone:	bugzilla hiccuped and did 2 requests ;)
16:43	cl:	I was trying to clear out bugmail on my phone during the day and saw that
16:43	cl:	so I didn't have full context
16:44	ardissone:	read the meeting log when we're done ;)
16:44	ardissone:	smorgan pinged the absent ss about AppZapper earlier in the week
16:44	cl:	we need live logs :-p
16:44	cl:	yeah, I was in-channel for that
16:44	ardissone:	he's sans-internet still
16:45	ardissone:	so he's building up quite a to-do list
16:45	ardissone:	i think that's all i have
16:45	ardissone:	anyone else have anything else about anything today?
16:46	ardissone:	ok then
16:47	ardissone:	please work on your 2.1/a1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week :)