Status Meetings:2011-01-19:Log
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Log from #camino-mtg starting 2011-01-19 15:36:03 -0500
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15:36 | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ. | |
15:36 | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-01-19:Agenda". | |
16:02 | » smorgan joined the chat room. | |
16:02 | » smorgan was promoted to operator by ardissone. | |
16:02 | ardissone: | pink? |
16:02 | » ilya joined the chat room. | |
16:02 | smorgan: | I don't see him |
16:02 | » ilya was promoted to operator by ardissone. | |
16:02 | ardissone: | heh |
16:03 | ardissone: | ok then |
16:03 | ilya: | don't see me where? O:-) |
16:03 | ardissone: | we'll moof along without him |
16:03 | ardissone: | heh |
16:03 | ilya: | or was that pink? |
16:03 | ardissone: | pink ;) |
16:03 | ardissone: | we see you just fine :) |
16:03 | » smorgan is now known as pinkerton. | |
16:03 | pinkerton: | ship it! |
16:03 | ardissone: | lol |
16:04 | » pinkerton is now known as smorgan. | |
16:04 | ardissone: | so |
16:04 | ardissone: | http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2011-01-19:Agenda |
16:04 | ardissone: | the most important thing to note about 2.0.6 is that socorro is thoroughly broken |
16:05 | ardissone: | and has been heavily broken for some time (since October) |
16:05 | ardissone: | so we have to take everything with a grain of salt |
16:05 | ardissone: | right now, all of the individual crashes are offline |
16:06 | ardissone: | and 2.1a1 is showing no crashes, even though at least I crashes last night (stupid JS) |
16:06 | smorgan: | Is this just for us? Or is Firefox flying blind too? |
16:06 | ardissone: | so i don't know whether the reports can even be trusted to have the right values |
16:06 | ardissone: | everyone |
16:06 | smorgan: | Good, so it will be fixed ;) |
16:07 | ardissone: | and that's ignoring the 100Ks of crashes that got collected and never integrated into the data since Oct |
16:07 | ardissone: | well, someday |
16:07 | ardissone: | but yes |
16:07 | ardissone: | the other interesting thing |
16:08 | ardissone: | is that pthread_mutex_lock spiked some, with several comments referring to Comcast Xfinity |
16:08 | ardissone: | which presumably means Comcast is using either VLC/Veetle or Move-Media for its TV |
16:09 | ardissone: | which is bad :( |
16:10 | ardissone: | there didn't appear to be any new LastPass or 1Password crashes this week over what were there last week |
16:10 | ardissone: | but, again, grain of salt |
16:11 | ardissone: | smorgan: any Flash stats update? |
16:11 | smorgan: | I looked last week and they hadn't moved much; I can check again now |
16:11 | ardissone: | ok |
16:11 | smorgan: | Is the Move Media plugin alive again? |
16:11 | ardissone: | dunno |
16:11 | smorgan: | I guess their new direction was going to be partnering with ISPs |
16:11 | ardissone: | can't see the crashes to tell |
16:11 | smorgan: | So that's plausible... |
16:12 | ardissone: | (Fox and CW used to use as late as Q1 2010, after I think you said it was dead) |
16:13 | smorgan: | Fox transitioned off fairly quickly |
16:13 | smorgan: | Dunno about CW |
16:13 | ardissone: | ok; i hadn't checked |
16:14 | smorgan: | 2.0.6: 88% 3% |
16:14 | smorgan: | 2.0: 78% 5% |
16:14 | ardissone: | 2.0.6 up a little from the last time iirc |
16:15 | ardissone: | anything else on 2.0.6? |
16:17 | smorgan: | Nope |
16:17 | ardissone: | what's our plan for 2.0.7? |
16:17 | ardissone: | 2.0.6 is 9 weeks old now |
16:17 | smorgan: | What's the Gecko side doing? |
16:17 | ardissone: | nothing |
16:18 | smorgan: | Oh, right |
16:18 | smorgan: | Then we should probably scrap 2.0.7 |
16:18 | smorgan: | Oh, I guess there's the font bug |
16:18 | ardissone: | and the fixed JEP |
16:18 | smorgan: | Oh, that's in? |
16:19 | ardissone: | well, it's waiting to land |
16:19 | smorgan: | I guess we can ship once that's in, and look into the font bug if it does in fact affect 2.0 |
16:19 | ardissone: | KBL was the main driver, but it seems to have vanished right now |
16:20 | ardissone: | for reasons as-yet unknows |
16:20 | ardissone: | *n |
16:20 | smorgan: | Mostly we should focus on shipping 2.1; we could even wait on the JEP potentially, depending on your workload |
16:21 | ardissone: | mostly agreed |
16:22 | ardissone: | i just don't want to abandon 2.0.x like we did 0.8.x while working on the next thing, when there are fixes available that users will benefit from |
16:23 | ardissone: | e.g., it was our users who found the JEP regression, not Firefox users :P |
16:23 | ardissone: | but, at the least, i need a week off in between release weeks |
16:24 | ardissone: | s |
16:24 | ardissone: | So, on to 2.1 stuff |
16:24 | ardissone: | we had a weekend sprint |
16:24 | ardissone: | mostly stuart sprinting and me trying to keep up ;) |
16:25 | ardissone: | and landed a whole bunch of extra stuff for a1 |
16:25 | ardissone: | Java disabling fix, arbitrary plug-in disabling, skeleton for blacklisting |
16:25 | ardissone: | FAYT |
16:25 | ardissone: | and some other UI stuff |
16:26 | ardissone: | in terms of autocomplete, so far haven't heard any other perf issues |
16:26 | ardissone: | just the one exception thing stuart fixed |
16:26 | ardissone: | the rest of the autocomplete stuff is predominantly UI |
16:27 | ardissone: | question: are we going to try and do sane integrated rankings per the bugs, or are we going to keep the annoying separated sections? |
16:29 | smorgan: | I can probably do that for b1 |
16:29 | ardissone: | ok |
16:29 | smorgan: | (I can definitely do it with a small loss of efficiency) |
16:30 | ardissone: | hates having to arrow down 5+ times to get the thing i want 95% of the time :P |
16:30 | ardissone: | so far the feedback on a1rc has been positive |
16:31 | smorgan: | I'll try to get to it this weekend so we have time to try it out |
16:31 | ardissone: | a few random things, as always |
16:31 | ardissone: | k |
16:31 | ardissone: | so i think we're in good shape to ship tomorrow |
16:32 | smorgan: | w00t! |
16:32 | ardissone: | i've got most of the web-related texts ready |
16:32 | ardissone: | (need to do the update description yet) |
16:32 | ardissone: | and beyond that, the website stuff is just a few small changes and the update definition |
16:33 | ardissone: | which ought to be ready tonight |
16:34 | ardissone: | anything else on 2.1/a1? |
16:34 | ardissone: | er, we have a b1 flag now |
16:35 | ardissone: | starting to go through and flag any remaining "big" items and l10n-related changes there |
16:36 | ardissone: | the r queue got a lot better this weekend |
16:36 | ardissone: | down about 25% |
16:37 | ardissone: | all the requests are still older than 1mo, except the new one |
16:37 | ardissone: | ilya: which is yours; you saw it, right? |
16:40 | ardissone: | anyone have anything else today? |
16:40 | ardissone: | (besides "ship it!" which is tomorrow ;) ) |
16:42 | ardissone: | ok then |
16:43 | ardissone: | everyone please work on 2.1/b1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week! :D |
16:43 | ilya: | ardissone: yeah, saw that one (though in my defense the new request is only a few days old) |
16:43 | ilya: | will try to get to it later today |
16:43 | ardissone: | yeah, just making sure you'd seen it |
16:43 | ardissone: | cool |
16:44 | ardissone: | (also because i "remember" you not being around recently, because when I wanted to ask you something the other day, you were not here at that moment ;) ) |
16:45 | ardissone: | (and without a bot, it's harder to really remember when people were last around ;) ) |