View source for Status Meetings:2008-07-30:Agenda

Wed 30 Jul 9am PDT (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 1.6.1
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM161/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=2000 all 1.6.1 crashes] — >1000 so far)
*** #1 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib.88.1.11&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib]
**** RealPlayer - {{bug|441736}} (bug also some Flash and Silverlight)
**** random bits of Camino code: 47958724 initMozillaPrefs, 48061310 refreshStyleSheet, 47710819 
**** A number of reports mention installing or upgrading 1passwd
**** Some reports mention startup (initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet among others)
*** #2 is Flash
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit
*** #4 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libobjc]
**** 46765023 -[KeychainService init]() on startup, 46195237; are these just corrupt keychains?  But see also 46195236 (CoreFoundation+1passwd from same user)
**** 46228188 should-have-been-fixed Privacy crash on 10.3.9 (one only)
*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=CoreFoundation&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid  CoreFoundation]
*** 48001978 -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() at startup; this is fairly common
*** Lots of crashes that contain the old tell-tale 1passwd signature
*** Dozen or so CamiTools
** Load was pretty heavy on the server, but things held up better.  We didn't use the dynamic feed generator since Sam was out of the office this week and couldn't be there to reboot.
** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
* [[Releases:1.6.3:Links|Camino 1.6.3]]
** mento needs to have free time to spin
** Markus was modifying all the relnotes, so should be ready to build as soon as we have a build
** Since Sam is in Vancouver this week, the plan is to use static files+htaccess again for updates
* Camino 2.0
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
** Stuart's started triaging the 2.0 list (3 criteria: regressions, make life better now, someone working on it)
** Need a target date for Camino 2.0a1
** Initial Sparkle upgrade (1.5b) landed in July
** Anti-phishing: Core patch landed; waiting on review. Many follow-up bugs on file.
** Tabsposé update
** Tab dragging?
* Tinderboxen
** cb-x1 back to life (but reporting with .local hostname); resurrection also fixed the Ts anomaly
** cb-minimaya and cb-minibinus have both gone missing yet again
<!--** cb-minimaya producing "1.6-M1.8" builds (4 hr clobber, 65 min dep)
** cb-minibinus producing "2.0-M1.9" builds (4 hr clobber, 45 min dep)-->
** boxset stopped reporting to tinderbox almost 4 months ago; Sam working on new mail server - {{bug|425138}}
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
* Dev docs
** cl rev'ed CBSamplePane; can't build branch-compatible pane using trunk files, other prefs window bugs
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*** Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
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* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** r queue really full to get full again; also, 2.0 lists finally made a tiny bit of progress a couple weeks ago. cl has patches targeted at just about every reviewer and is already having "bitrot"/patch overlap problems.

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 2.0a1pre ===
* See 2.0a1? list
* Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
* Security UI cleanup

=== 1.6.4 ===
* More toolbar icons coming?

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
** Folders (UNCO) - {{bug|436012}}

* cl's buglist
**{{bug|175748}} - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
**{{bug|313079}} - Control characters in bookmark titles cause strange visual effects
**{{bug|318931}} - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on {{bug|438256}}?)
**{{bug|363664}} - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"

* xpfe cleanup
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** {{bug|389140}} gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento
** {{bug|428333}} license.html; needs r=mento
** stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"<br>[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P

==Queries==

===Camino 2.0a1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0a1%3F  Blocking ?]  (4) {{greyText|[<!--+2 since last week-->unchanged]}} <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0a1%2B  Blocking +]  (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0a1- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  <!--  -->

===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0]  (45) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?]  (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  <!-- (623) {{greyText|['''+8''' since last week]}} '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-07-23&chfieldto=2008-07-30&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''2''') {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} ('''1''' was 2.0-targeted, 1 was relnotes)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review]  (18) <!-- {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} '''2 untargeted'''  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  (2) <!-- {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->