View source for Status Meetings:2008-02-20:Agenda

Wed 20 Feb 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 1.6b3
** Start working on follow-ups from recent big landings
** please help out with any nib/strings bugs
** Feature/l10n freeze is b3
** More triaging late last week; tab dragging and flashblock whitelist still on the bubble
** What 10.5 [[#Other (if there's time)|UI integration]] fixes do we want?
*** Sam has a designer working on polishing several toolbar icons to look better on 10.5
*** Need some design-type work on "all tabs" tab-bar icon ({{bug|359483}}) and "tab loading" icon ({{bug|415949}})
** Watch changes to perf when landing nibs
* Camino 1.6
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]
*** AppleScript
***: Need new patch from peeja on remaining follow-up we really want ("bookmarks eating")
*** swupdate: only minor stuff left, as long as nothing new appears with b3 testing
***: Ts regression {{bug|405542}}), appcast script ({{bug|401474}}), '''testing via b3'''
*** jeff has been fighting dividers in the tab dragging code
***: new patch up, in murph's queue
*** murph 
***: following-up on search bugs
*** feed-handlders
***: finally landed successfully, but need to exec them for them to be useful ({{bug|415319}})
* [[Releases:1.5.5:Links|Camino 1.5.5]]
** Hopefully last release of 1.5.x
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM155/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.5
*** Flash is #1
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch, waiting for sr for 2.5 months :( so far)
*** LaunchServices being called by Flash Player is #3 (all the same person)
<!--*** #5 is assorted 0xfffeff18 crashes (crashing deep in Apple code, various Kits, Frameworks and Toolboxes)
*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] (#10) - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info); there's also a live user in the [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=600994 forum]
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** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
* Camino 1.6b2
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16b2/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008011814&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 all 1.6b2 crashes]—only 72 so far, +13 since last week)
** Need to make sure we're getting enough user coverage (i.e., more than 1.6a1)
* Tinderboxen
** no new news on binus or maya?
** ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
* Dev docs
** Still some issues with the sample code and/or nib for the sample prefPane
** Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of 
*** Calling private APIs
*** Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
**: Add [[Development:Reviewing#Coding_for_latest-OS-version_features_or_using_private_APIs|here]]; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Queues are starting to build up again; sr queue is "huge"

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 1.6b3pre ===
* {{bug|417782}} - Decide on a form fill shortcut
* {{bug|413501}} - Provide a one-per-version startup warning about problem add-ons
** Need some language ideas
* Various toolbar spinner bugs
** rippping them out; need an icon (see {{bug|415949}})
* {{bug|408593}} - Only check for the default browser once
** Re-discuss, with mento's objections?

=== 1.5.6 ===
* nothing right now

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}

* '''Trunk'''
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
*** It's pretty scary out there right now
** xpfe cleanup
*** see older Agendas if you're interested <!--
*** {{bug|383085}} has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories
*** stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"<br>[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P -->

==Queries==

===Camino 1.6b3===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%3F  Blocking ?]  (6) {{greyText|[-3 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%2B  Blocking +]  (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3- Blocking -]  (9) {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} <!--''(1 haspatch)''  -->

===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6]  (24) {{greyText|[+5 since last week]}} <!--''(triaged)'' -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?]  (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation; two have patches) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +]  (4) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -]  (3) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  (566) {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-02-13&chfieldto=2008-02-20&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''7''') {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} ('''5''' were 1.6-targeted, 1 was website, 1 was a regression) <!-- 1 was website, 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review]  (11) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} <!-- '''1 untargeted''' -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  (10) {{greyText|[+5 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} -->