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Wed 16 September 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0b3
** Released fifteen weeks ago Thursday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/query/query?do_query=1&product=Camino&version=Camino%3A2.0b3&platform=mac&date=&range_value=2&range_unit=weeks&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query= Breakpad] pseudo-topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 479 (+61 from last week's number) <!--  -->
*** #1 <!--214--> is 10.6/JEP {{BPsig|2.0b3|___TERMINATING_DUE_TO_UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION___}} and {{BPsig|2.0b3|CoreFoundation@0x11cb07}} (45%; still increasing)
*** #2 <!--38--> is {{BPsig|2.0b3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (8%, down from 27%)
*** #3 <!--34--> is various other Flash-related crashes (7%; declining)
*** #4 <!--18--> is {{BPsig|2.0b3|_objc_error}}/{{BPsig|2.0b3|_objc_trap}}/{{BPsig|2.0b3|libobjc.A.dylib@0xeca0}}/{{BPsig|2.0b3|libobjc.A.dylib@0xeef4}}
*** #5 <!--17-->is {{BPsig|2.0b3|CFBasicHashReplaceValue}} - 10.6, Sonix SN9C201 WebCam + Flash
*** #6 <!--14-->is {{BPsig|2.0b3|MacOSFontEntry::GetFontID()}} - 10.6; filed {{bug|514114}}
*** Lots of misc signatures
* Camino 2.0b4
** Frozen Monday night
** [http://tinyurl.com/qsu3f9 RC] built Tuesday night
** Looking at an end-of-week release; need a bit of web work
* Camino 1.6.9
** Released three weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM169/index.html Talkback] is working! ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009081518&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.9 crashes]) — 790 so far, ~ +360 last week <!-- -->[still below average]) 
*** #1 Flash is 28% of all 1.6.9 crashes so far (down from 1.6.8's 33% peak)
*** #2 {{TBsig|16|2009061519|ATS.184.16.0}} (all 10.4.11; variety of triggers; security update?) 
*** #3 {{TBsig|16|2009061519|libobjc}} 
*** #4 {{TBsig|16|2009061519|0xfffeff18}} 
*** #5 {{TBsig|16|2009061519|CoreFoundation}} 
*** #5 {{TBsig|16|2009061519|Cocoa}}
* [[Releases:1.6.10:Links|Camino 1.6.10]]
** Going to disable Java on 10.6 - {{bug|513804}}
** Relnotes and all other changes landed 
* [[Development:Summer of Code 2009|Summer of Code 2009]]
** Dan's still writing patches; Stuart's still r-ing them ;)
* Camino 2.0
** Anti-phishing - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=358299&hide_resolved=1 follow-ups decreasing] (2)
** Keyboard loop - spawned about half-dozen new bugs; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}}
** Cocoa Widgets key blackhole - 
** [http://tinyurl.com/qbyt76 Tabsposé] - 
** breakpad - {{bug|489123}} for [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=489123&hide_resolved=1 follow-ups]
** Sparkle - will 1.5 go final; will we take it?
** Fonts tab - done  
** Zoom - just increment {{bug|493500}}; small change landed for b4
** Gecko strings l10n - heroic debugging by smorgan got us NSS strings; all done for b4
** 10.5 UI
*** Bookmark/tab bar
**** need to watch for 10.4 feedback
*** Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago on Downloads window; probably not making 2.0
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews
* Tinderboxen
** boxset
*** offline (again) due to power outage at Sam's
*** missing from tinderbox yet again {{bug|479999}}
*** currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
** cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml
*** would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01?  Needs HD repair
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Queues are at a good level, though still lower bug movement over the past few weeks (due in part to tinderbox carnage)

==Specific bugs that need action==

* See “Camino 2.0” section above

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** need updates from Sam
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|468262}} - Use grabbed hand cursor during tab dragging
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} -  Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.0b4===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4%3F  Blocking ?]  (Zarro) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4%2B  Blocking +] (Zarro) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} <!--  subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4- Blocking -]  (8) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}}  <!--  -->

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=l10n&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b4%3F&field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=camino2.0b4%2B&field0-0-2=flagtypes.name&type0-0-2=equals&value0-0-2=camino2.0%3F&field0-0-3=flagtypes.name&type0-0-3=equals&value0-0-3=camino2.0%2B&field0-0-4=target_milestone&type0-0-4=equals&value0-0-4=Camino2.0 l10n] ('''1''') {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} <!-- -->

===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (10) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?] (10) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -]  (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]   (694) {{greyText|[<!--'''+2''' since last week-->unchanged]}}'''  need <!--to keep on top-->another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-09-09&chfieldto=2009-09-16&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''9''') {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} ('''6''' were 2.0-targeted; 1 was 1.6.10 relnotes, 1 was old Ts regression, 1 was tracker<!--2 were ad-blocking, 2 were website,-->)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (4) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} <!--'''1 untargeted'''  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  ('''0''') {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} <!-- -->