View source for Status Meetings:2009-11-18:Agenda

Wed 18 November 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0rc
** Pushed to SWUpdate 3 weeks ago Tues afternoon
** Currently targeting end-of-meeting release
** [[Releases:2.0:l10n|l10n status]] - green is good, pink is bad
*** looking for 13 + 1 for 2.0.1; 3 from 1.6.x missing entirely (pt, cs, ca)
** Website
*** Docs changes done; everything else done except privacy policy ({{bug|522978}}); Sam applying redesign and fixing redesign-related pages (Home, Features)
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 238 (a bit below average) - '''NEW''' [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0 topcrashers by URL]
*** #1 <!--71--> is various Flash-related crashes (30%)
*** #2 <!--44--> is {{BPsig|2.0|MacOSFontEntry::GetFontID}} - {{bug|514114}} (18%) - big jump with 10.6.2; jdaggett checked in a probable fix Tues
*** #3 <!--5--> is {{BPsig|2.0|CFRelease}} / {{BPsig|2.0|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20TFSInfo::~TFSInfo}} (10.6.1 unfixed version of {{bug|514921}}?) (2%) - appears fixed by 10.6.2
*** #4 <!--4--> is {{BPsig|2.0|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} (GoogleDesktop) (2%)
*** #5 <!--4--> is {{BPsig|2.0|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
<!--*** #4 <!- -4- -> is {{BPsig|2.0|JS_CallTracer}}
*** #4 <!- -4- -> is {{BPsig|2.0|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop)
*** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
*** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}} -->
*** Crashes we expected to be fixed have indeed vanished
*** Mostly lots of misc signatures
* Camino 1.6.10
** Released seven weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs ss to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''1750''' so far, ~ +198 last week<!-- --> [still below average]  
*** #1 Flash is 25% of all 1.6.10 crashes so far (down from 1.6.9's 28% peak)
*** #2 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|libobjc}} - mostly plug-ins
*** #3 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|CoreFoundation}} 
*** #4 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|0xfffeff20}}
*** #5 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|libSystem.B}} - Flip4Mac, Real, Silverlight, DivX, SiteIconCache
<!--*** #5 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|0xfffeff18}}
*** #5 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|nsPluginInstanceOwner::GetDocument}}
*** #3 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|AppKit}} on 10.3.9-->
* [[Releases:1.6.11:Links|Camino 1.6.11]]
** Cookie exceptions fix and exceptions when viewing cookie list fix landed, plus CNN ad-blocking
** Several nominations; {{bug|520424}} (crash on form submit) and 10.6 Help search field would need patches
* Camino 2.0.1
** 9 nominations already
** Widget drawing 1.9.0-patch landed last week
** 10.6 Help search field
** netError - one more crazy possibility, but not likely
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** !seen dan
** Start thinking about other features; added a few things that came to mind
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews
** Downloads prefPane icon and other icon tweaks
** Fixing minor bugs here and there
** Gecko 1.9.1?
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04
*** ~8min Depend builds, 29min Clobbers, currently running 2.0 and 2.1, Ts, uploading “hourlies”
** boxset
*** offline (again) due to power outage at Sam's
*** missing from tinderbox yet again {{bug|479999}}
*** were tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
** cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml
*** would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01?  Needs HD repair
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Very slow since 2.0 freeze; hendy's patch needs a reviewer

==Specific bugs that need action==

* None

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|468262}} - Use grabbed hand cursor during tab dragging
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} -  Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.0===
Zarro Boogs!

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} <!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -]  (7) {{greyText|[unchanged<!---1 since last week-->]}}   

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]   (694) {{greyText|['''+1''' since last week]}}'''  need <!--to keep on top-->another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-11-11&chfieldto=2009-11-18&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''1''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}} ('''1''' were 2.0-targeted [cert]<!--; 4 were website-for-2.0 & meta, 3 were possible 2.0.1 changes, 1 other; 2 were ad-blocking, 2 were website-->)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (6) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} '''1 untargeted'''<!--  -->
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  ('''2''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}}