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Sardisson: my long-lines aren't wrapped like sam's are; ss, please post yours when you get a chance

2006-09-05T18:25:37Z

my long-lines aren't wrapped like sam's are; ss, please post yours when you get a chance

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<pre>[11:39am] _Tsk_: ardissone|away: ?
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[11:52am] maxr: Pinolo: the build hasn't been made yet
[11:52am] Pinolo: k
[11:52am] maxr: ss is running late at a meeting, but we can start without him
[11:52am] Pinolo: I was asking because I'm on broadband now
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[11:53am] _Tsk_: Yeah !!!
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[11:54am] Topic changed to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2006-09-05" by maxr.
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[11:58am] maxr: for those that don't know who i am, i'm maxr. i work with ss and help with the website. i'll also be coding soon as well.
[11:58am] maxr: he's sitting in a room not far from me in a meeting and is running late
[11:59am] Pinolo: hi max
[11:59am] pinkerton: welcome
[11:59am] maxr: in the coming months, i'll also be coding and doing other things as assigned
[11:59am] ardissone|away: maxr also = sam's clone
[11:59am] maxr: maxr also = ss's bitch
[12:00pm] maxr: yay for bosses
[12:00pm] pinkerton: we haven't ever seen them in the same room together, maxr could *be* ss
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[12:00pm] maxr: i wish
[12:00pm] maxr: he gets paid more
[12:01pm] maxr: so, shall we begin?
[12:01pm] maxr: ss|gone: if you join later, just cut me out
[12:02pm] maxr: the first thing we need to talk about is 1.0.3
[12:02pm] ardissone|away: checkins are done, except relnotes and minibranch stuff
[12:02pm] maxr: mento: are you able to do the minibranch today so we can get a build out?
[12:02pm] Pinolo: I've collected a fair amount of tranlsated relnotes
[12:03pm] mento: maxr: it's highly likely
[12:03pm] pinkerton: Pinolo: cool
[12:03pm] ardissone|away:
[12:03pm] mento: do we have a list of checkins we'll need on the minibranch?
[12:03pm] You are now known as ardissone|food.
[12:03pm] maxr: see: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:1.0.3:Links
[12:03pm] ardissone|food: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:1.0.3:Links
[12:03pm] maxr: under the "mini-branching" section
[12:03pm] ardissone|food: basically just your caceh fix
[12:03pm] mento: ah good
[12:03pm] ardissone|food: and pssobly the MathML thing since you're m-b anyway
[12:04pm] ardissone|food: nothing substantive
[12:04pm] ardissone|food: (and relnotes)
[12:04pm] mento: what about the search box thing?
[12:04pm] mento: we still want that on the minibranch?
[12:04pm] maxr: it was removed from the relnotes
[12:04pm] maxr: i'd say "no"
[12:04pm] maxr: because it won't be in future releases
[12:04pm] mento: ugly crap. ok.
[12:04pm] ardissone|food: only if you and pink want to fight dbaron and bz
[12:04pm] maxr: unless we want to forever take it on minibranches to come
[12:05pm] mento: i'd like for a real fix to land on 1.8.0 or 1.8
[12:05pm] ardissone|food: it looks like apple might have fized it, tho
[12:05pm] ardissone|food: it looked ok last i checked
[12:05pm] ardissone|food: and stuff has been backed out for some time iirc
[12:05pm] mento: annnnnnyway, the relnotes are ready for checkin too?
[12:05pm] maxr: yes
[12:05pm] maxr: you sred them
[12:05pm] mento: i sure did.
[12:06pm] mento: i'll do a spin, at the latest, this evening
[12:06pm] ardissone|food: we'll call it an RC and get everyone hammering on it
[12:06pm] mento: sure
[12:06pm] maxr: we only have a day or two to hammer though
[12:06pm] maxr: if we want to release with 1.8.0.7
[12:06pm] ardissone|food: the evil bloglines bug seems fixed in it
[12:07pm] ardissone|food: that's a topcrasher in 102
[12:07pm] maxr: as far as l10n goes...
[12:07pm] Pinolo: it goes...
[12:07pm] maxr: Pinolo, _Tsk_: how are you looking?
[12:08pm] maxr: how many translations do you have?
[12:08pm] Pinolo: yes
[12:08pm] maxr: and how many are you missing?
[12:08pm] Pinolo: I can say more precisely tonight
[12:08pm] maxr: alright, shoot out an email to let us know
[12:08pm] Pinolo: I think we have about 10
[12:08pm] Pinolo: including the main ones
[12:09pm] maxr: that looks right to me, based on email
[12:09pm] maxr: how many did 1.0.2 ship with?
[12:09pm] Pinolo: _Tsk_ can you answer? I'm on PC right now
[12:10pm] ardissone|food: speaking of 1.0.2, froodian mentioned caminol10n.mozdev is still talking about 1.0.1
[12:10pm] maxr: 17, according to cbo
[12:10pm] Pinolo: I'll take care of caminol10n
[12:10pm] _Tsk_: Sure let me a minute
[12:11pm] ss|gone: k
[12:11pm] ss|gone: maxr: ty
[12:11pm] ardissone|food: i count 16 renlontes folders on the dmg
[12:11pm] maxr: yw
[12:11pm] _Tsk_: I run trunk on my machines dont have em handy
[12:11pm] _Tsk_: so we are missing 6
[12:11pm] _Tsk_: haven't seen russian nor dk
[12:11pm] ardissone|food: (that includes the original en readme)
[12:11pm] Pinolo: 16 is good, since one of the lang is british english
[12:12pm] ss|gone: I saw russian.
[12:12pm] ss|gone: Russian made it to the list anyway.
[12:12pm] Pinolo: I'll be more precise about what we have in a few hour via email
[12:12pm] ss|gone: From Igor, two days ago
[12:12pm] ss|gone: Anyway, let's move on.
[12:12pm] ss|gone: "We're doing good" is the point.
[12:12pm] ardissone|food: mhm
[12:13pm] ss|gone: Hopefully we'll be good enough to release on Thursday.
[12:13pm] Pinolo: Yeah, I've archived everything from the list
[12:13pm] ss|gone: If not, we might push it a day, but it looks good so far.
[12:13pm] _Tsk_: I don't have russian in my mbox
[12:13pm] _Tsk_: I've just checked
[12:13pm] Pinolo: I'll try to get the build tomorrow morning
[12:13pm] ss|gone: We'll have a build tonight that will be the "RC" and, probably, the "final build".
[12:13pm] _Tsk_: How logn do you guys want the RC to be tested ?
[12:14pm] ss|gone: It can be pretty short. Not much has changed on that branch.
[12:14pm] ss|gone: _Tsk_: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/caminol10n/2006-September/001708.html
[12:15pm] ardissone|food: next item?
[12:15pm] ss|gone: mhm
[12:15pm] cl|zzz is now known as cl.
[12:15pm] ss|gone: haas posted a new patch
[12:16pm] ardissone|food: hwaara and smorgan reviewed it
[12:16pm] ss|gone: It got r+ (thanks hwaara), but smorgan left comments again
[12:16pm] _Tsk_: Why wouldn't he ?
[12:16pm] ss|gone: With those changes, he needs some sr-lovin'
[12:16pm] ss|gone: pinkerton: That's you.
[12:17pm] pinkerton: for what?
[12:17pm] ardissone|food: bug 322093
[12:17pm] ss|gone: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322093
[12:17pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322093 nor, P2, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Camino initial bookmark import APPEARS to hang and stall w/ large bookmark imports
[12:18pm] pinkerton: it's in my queue
[12:18pm] ss|gone: mhm
[12:18pm] ss|gone: It's priority in your queue
[12:18pm] ss|gone:
[12:19pm] ss|gone: Overall, we still have lots of blockage in the review (but not superreview) queue
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[12:19pm] ss|gone: drops the hint for various reviewers in channel
[12:20pm] peeja|sleep is now known as peeja|inandout.
[12:21pm] ss|gone: Next?
[12:21pm] ss|gone: Camino 1.1, which is basically being help up by the review queue.
[12:21pm] ss|gone: But, in here, I can also say, everyone welcome froodian as a new CVS checker inner
[12:21pm] ss|gone is now known as ss.
[12:21pm] ardissone|food: yes, applause
[12:22pm] pinkerton: yay!
[12:22pm] Pinolo: go!
[12:22pm] ss: He's already done a few checkins today.
[12:22pm] ardissone|food: w2hen i went to bed last night, the stats were accurate (no 1.1 checkins in a week)
[12:22pm] _Tsk_: clap clap
[12:22pm] ardissone|food: froOODian cvs will help, but reviews are still the key problem
[12:23pm] ss: Yeah, they really are.
[12:23pm] ardissone|food: becomes a broken record
[12:23pm] ss: We're still waiting on RSS for example.
[12:23pm] ss: smorgan must be pretty busy
[12:23pm] peeja|inandout: looks up and claps for froodian!
[12:23pm] ardissone|food: yeah, he was not really around at all last week
[12:24pm] ss: Before we go into specific bugs, I just want to say:
[12:24pm] ss: cb.o is sucking right now, overall.
[12:24pm] ss: We're working on it and should have a new host this month.
[12:24pm] _Tsk_: nice so you're leaving dreamhost ?
[12:25pm] ss: It's being watched by some sysadmins now.
[12:25pm] ss: Yeah
[12:25pm] ss: So when it goes down, they get paged.
[12:25pm] ss: And they call DreamHost to deal with it.
[12:25pm] _Tsk_: care to tell us where it's moving ?
[12:25pm] _Tsk_:
[12:25pm] ss: That doesn't solve the problem, but it helps.
[12:25pm] ss: _Tsk_: It's not 100% yet and we have a couple of options.
[12:25pm] ss: But as soon as it's decided, I'll let everyone know.
[12:26pm] ss: Moving on...
[12:26pm] ss: bug 337750
[12:26pm] thebot: ss: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337750 cri, P2, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, bookmarks-corrupted-n.plist often written as empty file
[12:26pm] ss: We need to get that logging in soon
[12:27pm] cl: any chance of getting it into 1.0.3?
[12:27pm] ardissone|food: is is happening on 1.0.x?
[12:27pm] cl: yes.
[12:27pm] cl: most people seeing it have been on release builds.
[12:27pm] cl: that's why they're so pissed.
[12:28pm] ardissone|food: i think for 1.0.x we should do a custom build
[12:28pm] ss: I agree.
[12:28pm] ardissone|food: i'm ok with it in for everyone on branch/trunk, but 1.0.x seems iffy
[12:28pm] cl: that's fine too, as long as we promote the hell out of it to the people who've had the problem
[12:28pm] cl: since we'll need some serious testing on it in hopes that we find something.
[12:29pm] cl: (is it still the case that no one but Simon has seen it on our team)
[12:29pm] cl: ?
[12:29pm] ss: Not sure, I thought someone else did, but I don't recall anymore.
[12:29pm] ardissone|food: i think so
[12:29pm] ss: That's the bug that just won't die.
[12:30pm] ardissone|food: there's been one report on 10.3.9 iirc, but everyone else in 10.4
[12:30pm] _Tsk_: gotta run
[12:30pm] ss: (The whole "destruction of bookmarks" bug.)
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[12:31pm] ardissone|food: should we ping smfr to look at the logging patch, or can someone else?
[12:31pm] ss: smorgan probably can
[12:31pm] ss: But we can have smfr sr it
[12:31pm] cl: i think the logging patch is already sr-worthy
[12:31pm] pinkerton: if someone reviews it, i can give it a rubber stamp
[12:32pm] cl: since the one part smorgan didn't like was removed in the latest version
[12:32pm] ss: smorgan's already given his two cents on the other patch, I think it's almost there.
[12:32pm] cl: i think it'd be useful for someone who is fairly knowledgeable and not smorgan to take a good hard look at it to see if there's anything we might have missed.
[12:32pm] ardissone|food: if smorgan doesn't come back tonight, can hwaara r it tomorrow?
[12:33pm] cl: point being, the sr on this shouldn't just be a rubber stamp
[12:33pm] cl: (sorry pink)
[12:33pm] pinkerton: for logging that's already been discussed?
[12:33pm] ardissone|food: it's logging code tho
[12:34pm] ss: Well, we'll see when we get there.
[12:34pm] ardissone|food: rs'ing the logging gets it in more quickly, which means more info about the bug
[12:34pm] ardissone|food: anyway
[12:34pm] ss: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322374
[12:34pm] thebot: ss: Bug 322374 cri, --, Camino1.1, nick.kreeger@park.edu, REOP, Crash [@ libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0] when clearing download list
[12:34pm] ss: I want that bug closed.
[12:34pm] cl: haha
[12:35pm] ardissone|food: yeah, i think we file a new bug on the new thing
[12:35pm] ss: Just because things crash in libobj doesn't mean it's the same issue.
[12:35pm] ss: That's totally a catchall.
[12:35pm] ardissone|food: yeah
[12:35pm] ardissone|food: is *should* be our topcrasher
[12:35pm] ss: mhm
[12:35pm] cl: heh
[12:35pm] ardissone|food: (if not, there's a bad bug)
[12:35pm] ss: And also, the one TB report that said he was cleaning his list was probably also downloading.
[12:36pm] ardissone|food: missed that one
[12:36pm] cl: what was it ispiked said the guy put in the TB comments?
[12:36pm] ss: So, all for closing it again?
[12:36pm] cl: aye
[12:36pm] ss: Did he say anything?
[12:36pm] ss: I know I did...
[12:36pm] ardissone|food: mhm
[12:37pm] ss: "I was closing all my tabs (everything worked fine) and then I went to clean up my downloads, and it crashed. Overall, I find your browser superior to all the others, so I'm not too upset, but if you can use the info for fixing things, so much the better."
[12:37pm] ardissone|food: heh
[12:37pm] ss: Are there any opposed to closing it?
[12:37pm] ardissone|food: and that one has no stack
[12:38pm] ss: Close that baby
[12:38pm] ss: will tell ispiked
[12:38pm] ss: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552
[12:38pm] thebot: ss: Bug 308552 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl Integration for Mac OS X
[12:38pm] ss: We need to decide on that bug now.
[12:39pm] ss: As much as no one wants to.
[12:39pm] ss: Because we have someone that's interested in writing the patch.
[12:39pm] ss: pinkerton: ^^
[12:39pm] cl: haha, there we go. "Tweaking Camino where your mom told you never touch a girl."
[12:39pm] pinkerton: hrm
[12:39pm] ss: Yeah, that was awesome.
[12:40pm] pinkerton: so if growl is installed, we'll talk to it, otherwise we'll do nothing?
[12:40pm] cl: right.
[12:40pm] ss: That's the idea.
[12:40pm] ardissone|food: that's what they promise
[12:40pm] pinkerton: and if not, it won't annoy people? like we're not going to bundle it ourselves?
[12:40pm] hwaara: we should be able to weak-link the framework, right?
[12:41pm] pinkerton: will that require changes to tinderbox/build machines to include that framework on them?
[12:41pm] pinkerton: that's been one of the sticking points in the past, though that's sort of a cop-out
[12:41pm] hwaara: wait, this bug's for Thunderbird
[12:41pm] ss: I think we'll need to include the basic framework
[12:42pm] ss: But not the full package.
[12:42pm] hwaara: what am I missing?
[12:42pm] ardissone|food: bug 283100
[12:42pm] pinkerton: hwaara: for downloads complete
[12:42pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283100 enh, --, Future, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl global notifications in Camino for completed downloads
[12:42pm] ardissone|food: someone put in the wrong number
[12:42pm] hwaara: oh
[12:42pm] ss: Including the full package would allow users to install Growl, iirc.
[12:42pm] ss: But we're not going to do that.
[12:42pm] hwaara: anyway, growl integration would be better done somewhere in core, so everyone can reuse it
[12:43pm] hwaara: if TB's gonna use it anyway
[12:43pm] ss: Umm... huh?
[12:43pm] cl: ooh, possible sticking point...has Growl been ported to Intel?
[12:43pm] ss: If we're talking about download notifications...
[12:43pm] hwaara: ss: bug 308552
[12:43pm] thebot: hwaara: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl Integration for Mac OS X
[12:43pm] ss: We do those different than core does.
[12:43pm] ss: hwaara: See what I just said.
[12:43pm] ss: cl: Yes.
[12:43pm] hwaara: oh well
[12:44pm] ss: "Growl 0.7.4 is released! This release provides support for Intel based Apple Computers via a Universal Binary."
[12:44pm] cl: ah, good, never mind then.
[12:44pm] hwaara: iirc, growl integration is not many lines of code.
[12:44pm] Wevah: buh?
[12:44pm] Wevah: yeah
[12:44pm] hwaara: we just have to take care to weak-link the framework
[12:44pm] Wevah: it's not
[12:44pm] Wevah: yeah
[12:44pm] hwaara: and make it look good if it exists
[12:44pm] ardissone|food: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552#c10 seems useful
[12:44pm] ss: I don't think we have any say in how it looks.
[12:44pm] cl: no, we don't
[12:45pm] hwaara: I just know that whatever colloquy does looks fugly
[12:45pm] cl: the user chooses the appearance of the growl notifications
[12:45pm] hwaara: and I don't think I have growl installed on the machine..
[12:45pm] cl: heh. well, that's because colloquy sucks
[12:45pm] hwaara: but they don't have any say in it, no?
[12:45pm] ss: Yeah, that's why most of us hate Growl so much.
[12:45pm] ardissone|food: 244K for the framework
[12:45pm] ss: Because of Colloquy.
[12:45pm] cl: they don't have any say in colloquy's use of it, no. they do elsewhere, and it doesn't suck elsewhere.
[12:45pm] Wevah: colloquy seems to do growl badly
[12:46pm] Wevah: what you said
[12:46pm] cl: you just can't ever turn it completely off in Colloquy, which is what most people would prefer to its awful implementation
[12:46pm] hwaara: ah, exactly
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[12:46pm] hwaara: so, colloquy is probably bundling it with the app
[12:46pm] hwaara: which we shouldn't
[12:46pm] cl: yeah.
[12:46pm] Wevah: well
[12:46pm] cl: therefore, problem solved.
[12:46pm] ss: Let me say this once, and only once:
[12:46pm] ss: Colloquy sucks.
[12:46pm] hwaara: heh
[12:46pm] ardissone|food: well
[12:46pm] Wevah: transmit and adium have the framework in-app
[12:47pm] ardissone|food: their reocmmended solution is now to bundle with it in the app
[12:47pm] Wevah: but their use doesn't suck nearly as much
[12:47pm] Wevah: i don't mind the without-installer version so much
[12:47pm] ss: Alright, let's take a vote, since we're democratic like that.
[12:47pm] ss: pinkerton: Feel free to override it.
[12:48pm] hwaara: for downloads only, right?
[12:48pm] pinkerton: i don't want it in the app
[12:48pm] ardissone|food: if we can do it right (i.e., i'll never notice it) and without bloating the app, I'm not opposed
[12:48pm] ss: All those in favor of including Growl as a simple framework, but not exposing it by default (letting the user expose it only), say aye:
[12:48pm] pinkerton: we shouldn't bundle it
[12:48pm] cl: aye
[12:48pm] Wevah: afaict the framework is just for ease-of-implementation
[12:48pm] hwaara: aye (no bundling, weak linking)
[12:48pm] Wevah: it doesn't do anything if the user doesn't have the prefpane/bg app installed
[12:49pm] cl: (agree with pink that we shouldn't ship the full thing, just the bare minimum required for support)
[12:49pm] ardissone|food: i don't think we're on the same page at all
[12:49pm] pinkerton: can we do it w/out doing anything to the build machines?
[12:49pm] pinkerton: or will we have to add something in any case?
[12:50pm] hwaara: pinkerton: yes, but they won't check if someone breaks growl-caminos
[12:50pm] hwaara: which is very unlikely anyway
[12:50pm] ss: I think our best option is to add the 244k framework.
[12:50pm] ss: It doesn't have an installer with it.
[12:50pm] Wevah: right
[12:50pm] ss: So it won't show up unless the user already has Growl installed.
[12:50pm] pinkerton: seems large
[12:50pm] hwaara: ugh
[12:50pm] ardissone|food: yeah
[12:50pm] Wevah: what ss said about use, though
[12:50pm] ardissone|food: midas was less than that iirc
[12:50pm] Wevah: it does nothing if they don't have it installed
[12:51pm] ardissone|food: and we argued forever over it, and it's standard part of gecko
[12:51pm] hwaara: there's a dyld linker flag that is -weak_framework or something like that. I wonder why we can't simply use that
[12:51pm] hwaara: then check on runtime if the stuff's available
[12:51pm] Wevah: well
[12:51pm] Wevah: 84 K of that is headers
[12:51pm] hwaara: we can ask the growl people if that is feasible?
[12:51pm] ardissone|food: they claim people didn't weak-link right
[12:51pm] ardissone|food: see the bug comment i linked
[12:52pm] ardissone|food: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308552#c10
[12:52pm] ss: I have to go, but I'm for the 244k framework.
[12:52pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug 308552 nor, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Growl Integration for Mac OS X
[12:52pm] ardissone|food: in the Tb bug
[12:52pm] ss: ardissone|food: Take it away (the meeting, I mean)
[12:52pm] ardissone|food: we need something to tell the guy who wants to fix it
[12:52pm] ardissone|food: k
[12:53pm] ardissone|food: either 1) weak-link or 2) AppleScript
[12:53pm] ardissone|food: i don't think it's fair to make him develop both and we argue more later
[12:53pm] hwaara: weak-link will save 244k. I think it's technically possible, but we can check with the growl people first
[12:54pm] hwaara: probably the crashes were happening due to people strong-linking, and then it wasn't available
[12:54pm] Wevah: i'm sure it's possible; we'd just have to remember to test
[12:54pm] Wevah:
[12:54pm] Wevah: yeah
[12:54pm] hwaara: of course
[12:54pm] ardissone|food: we should be capable of doing things correctly here
[12:54pm] Wevah: or not doing the if (foo) check
[12:54pm] Wevah: or whatever
[12:54pm] Wevah: yes
[12:54pm] Wevah: we r smrt
[12:54pm] ardissone|food: k
[12:54pm] ardissone|food: so, we poke the growl folks about weak-linking
[12:55pm] ardissone|food: and have an a=pinkerton for proceeding if nothing gets bundled
[12:55pm] ardissone|food: correct?
[12:55pm] pinkerton: yes
[12:55pm] ardissone|food: k
[12:56pm] ardissone|food: last bug is the weird intel stuff
[12:56pm] ardissone|food: bad stuff with sheets and autocomplete
[12:56pm] ardissone|food: bug 346111, Bug 351008 (possibly) and one that sam, maxr and Wevah see but haven't filed
[12:57pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346111 nor, --, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, [10.4] javascript:alert() typed in location bar doesn't close if loaded from autocomplete drop-down
[12:57pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351008 cri, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, are you sure you want to navigate out of this page hang
[12:57pm] ardissone|food: mento: these seem to be intel-only stuff
[12:57pm] ardissone|food: Wevah/maxr : can you describe your bug?
[12:58pm] ardissone|food: autocomplete results never update?
[12:58pm] Wevah: the autocomplete table stops updating properly
[12:58pm] Wevah: sometimes it shows up empty
[12:59pm] ardissone|food: so
[12:59pm] ardissone|food: we need some people to look at these
[1:00pm] ardissone|food: (we also need the autocomplete one filed :P)
[1:00pm] hwaara: I would like to fix bug 342755, but dunno which way to go
[1:00pm] thebot: hwaara: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342755 min, --, Camino1.2, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Cmd-clicking javascript: links opens eternally "Loading..." tab
[1:01pm] ardissone|food: mento: bug 346111 is definitely repro-able and has some analysis from smorgan; can you start there?
[1:01pm] thebot: ardissone|food: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346111 nor, --, Camino1.1, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, [10.4] javascript:alert() typed in location bar doesn't close if loaded from autocomplete drop-down
[1:02pm] ardissone|food: any ideas for hwaara?
[1:03pm] thebot: New build added to Mozilla1.8-SeaMonkey: Linux hoshi Depend (1.1) (status: Success).
[1:03pm] ardissone|food:
[1:03pm] hwaara: hmm
[1:04pm] hwaara: it would be hard to debug/fix without an intel mac
[1:04pm] hwaara: sounds like some weird appkit bug (possibly) that we'd need to avoid
[1:04pm] ardissone|food: yeah, that's why I keep pinging mento
[1:04pm] ardissone|food: who must be busy
[1:05pm] ardissone|food: any other issues not on the agenda?
[1:05pm] cl: yes, if i may.
[1:05pm] hwaara: me too
[1:06pm] ardissone|food: make them quick we're over an hour
[1:06pm] hwaara: but go first, cl
[1:06pm] cl: i'd just like to announce that i'm (mostly) back
[1:06pm] ardissone|food: yay!
[1:06pm] ardissone|food: applause
[1:06pm] cl: and apologise for the rather disgraceful way i took my semi-leave.
[1:06pm] hwaara: awesome
[1:07pm] cl: hands the floor to håkan
[1:07pm] ardissone|food: hwaara: ?
[1:08pm] hwaara: well, I want to see bug 342755 fixed. if anyone has any ideas, please comment. pinkerton, do you think you could have a quick look?
[1:08pm] thebot: hwaara: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342755 min, --, Camino1.2, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Cmd-clicking javascript: links opens eternally "Loading..." tab
[1:08pm] pinkerton: (really busy)
[1:08pm] ardissone|food: !clone camino devs
[1:09pm] ardissone|food: ok, i guess that's it for today
[1:09pm] ardissone|food: mento will spin an RC tonight and we need everyone to start hammering on it
[1:10pm] ardissone|food: and we'll see what we can do with growl
[1:10pm] hwaara: also, these meetings should be summarized
[1:10pm] ardissone|food: and as always, please try to keep the r queue moving
[1:10pm] ardissone|food: (and ss will never let me run another meeting :P)
[1:10pm] cl: yeah, we need to get someone to make an executive summary
[1:11pm] thebot: New build added to Mozilla1.8.0-SeaMonkey: WINNT 5.1 tpol Clobber release (status: Success).
[1:11pm] ardissone|food: ok, that's it
[1:11pm] ardissone|food: thanks all
[1:11pm] hwaara: just a small "response" to each bullet in the wiki page would do
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[1:11pm] ardissone|food: heh
[1:11pm] froodian|class is now known as froodian.
[1:12pm] cl: hahah
[1:12pm] ardissone|food: everyone, more applause for froodian
[1:12pm] ardissone|food: applauds
[1:12pm] froodian: is confused
[1:12pm] cl: applauds with one hand
[1:12pm] ardissone|food: C-V-S, C-V-S
[1:12pm] cl: on IRC, the sound of one hand clapping is just as loud as with two
[1:12pm] froodian:
[1:13pm] hwaara: heh
[1:13pm] ardissone|food: hwaara: i'll make a template we can use to keep the summary info separarte from the pre-mtg comments
[1:13pm] Wevah: HUZZAH FROODIAN
[1:13pm] hwaara: ardissone|food: great!
[1:14pm] froodian: and I didn't even break the tree
[1:14pm] ardissone|food:
[1:14pm] froodian: was worried when he had to go to class and stuff was still compiling
[1:14pm] froodian: so, is the meeting over?
[1:14pm] ardissone|food: ok, back to #camino
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+:07 <@maxr> so, shall we begin?
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+:07 <@maxr> ss|gone: if you join later, just cut me out
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+:08 <@maxr> the first thing we need to talk about is 1.0.3
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+:08 < ardissone|away> checkins are done, except relnotes and minibranch stuff
-[11:51am] ss|gone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.
+:08 <@maxr> mento: are you able to do the minibranch today so we can get a build out?
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+:08 < Pinolo> I've collected a fair amount of tranlsated relnotes
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+:09 < mento> maxr: it's highly likely
-[11:52am] maxr: Pinolo: the build hasn't been made yet
+:09 < pinkerton> Pinolo: cool
-[11:52am] Pinolo: k
+:09 < ardissone|away> :)
-[11:52am] maxr: ss is running late at a meeting, but we can start without him
+:09 < mento> do we have a list of checkins we'll need on the minibranch?
-[11:52am] Pinolo: I was asking because I'm on broadband now
+:09 -!- ardissone|away is now known as ardissone|food
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+:09 <@maxr> see: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:1.0.3:Links
-[11:53am] _Tsk_: Yeah !!!
+:09 < ardissone|food> http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Releases:1.0.3:Links
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+:09 <@maxr> under the "mini-branching" section
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+:09 < ardissone|food> basically just your caceh fix
-[11:54am] Topic changed to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2006-09-05" by maxr.
+:09 < mento> ah good
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+:09 < ardissone|food> and pssobly the MathML thing since you're m-b anyway
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+:10 < ardissone|food> nothing substantive
-[11:58am] maxr: for those that don't know who i am, i'm maxr. i work with ss and help with the website. i'll also be coding soon as well.
+:10 < ardissone|food> (and relnotes)
-[11:58am] maxr: he's sitting in a room not far from me in a meeting and is running late
+:10 < mento> what about the search box thing?
-[11:59am] Pinolo: hi max
+:10 < mento> we still want that on the minibranch?
-[11:59am] pinkerton: welcome
+:10 <@maxr> it was removed from the relnotes
-[11:59am] maxr: in the coming months, i'll also be coding and doing other things as assigned
+:10 <@maxr> i'd say "no"
-[11:59am] ardissone|away: maxr also = sam's clone
+:10 <@maxr> because it won't be in future releases
-[11:59am] maxr: maxr also = ss's bitch
+:10 < mento> ugly crap. ok.
-[12:00pm] maxr: yay for bosses
+:10 < ardissone|food> only if you and pink want to fight dbaron and bz :P
-[12:00pm] pinkerton: we haven't ever seen them in the
+:10 <@maxr> unless we want to forever take it on minibranches
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Admin at 18:28, 5 September 2006

Admin at 18:28, 5 September 2006

Sardisson: note that this is not sam's log ;)

Sardisson: my long-lines aren't wrapped like sam's are; ss, please post yours when you get a chance