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		<title>Murph at 18:45, 13 December 2006</title>
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[12:03pm] froodian: everybody point yourself to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2006-12-13:Agenda&lt;br /&gt;
[12:03pm] froodian: 1.1a2 is scheduled for this friday&lt;br /&gt;
[12:03pm] froodian: theoretically pending kqueue&lt;br /&gt;
[12:03pm] froodian: is that feasible?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:03pm] froodian: !summon kreeger &amp;amp; smorgan&lt;br /&gt;
[12:05pm] froodian: (although the wiki still says that kqueue is awaiting review, smorgan reviewed it this morning, btw)&lt;br /&gt;
[12:06pm] froodian: perhaps a better question is, who other than me is really here? &lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] Wevah: i am&lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] murph: hehe, i&amp;#039;m around, but not much of a help with the kqueue situation  &lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] Wevah: kind of&lt;br /&gt;
[12:08pm] froodian: well, i&amp;#039;m inclined to say meeting adjourned due to lack of critical mass, and 1.1a2 pushed to indeterminate laterdat&lt;br /&gt;
[12:08pm] froodian: e&lt;br /&gt;
[12:08pm] froodian: anybody disagree?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] kreeger joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] froodian: murph: if you have some review time, feel free to take pretty much anything on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=review&amp;amp;requestee=&amp;amp;component=&amp;amp;group=type&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] froodian: the review queues need major loving&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] Wevah: froodian: yeah probably, unfortunately&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] murph: alright..i&amp;#039;d be glad to.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] Wevah: i need to get on my cvs application&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] mento: froodian: i&amp;#039;m here.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] Wevah: i had the bug all filled out and then forgot and closed the window&lt;br /&gt;
[12:10pm] murph: thanks for requesting my first review btw froodian  &lt;br /&gt;
[12:10pm] froodian: thanks for doing it &lt;br /&gt;
[12:10pm] murph: np&lt;br /&gt;
[12:11pm] ardissone|away: i&amp;#039;m here for a bit&lt;br /&gt;
[12:11pm] ardissone|away: until we get useful instructions&lt;br /&gt;
[12:11pm] ardissone|away:&lt;br /&gt;
[12:11pm] ardissone|away: but i think we all know the status&lt;br /&gt;
[12:12pm] kreeger: ardissone|away: something about solaris ?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] froodian: ok, everybody think not-swamped-with-other-work thoughts, and we&amp;#039;ll resume this line of talk next week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] froodian: unless anybody has anything else they feel needs to be talked about now...&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] kreeger: the kqueue patch got a review&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] kreeger: ill try and respin it tommorow&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] froodian:&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] ardissone|away: i&amp;#039;m ready to start +/- 1.0.4 patches&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone|away: any objection to that?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone|away: s/patches/bugs&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] froodian: mento: ^^&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] kreeger is now known as kreeger-away.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] kreeger-away was promoted to operator by froodian.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] mento: no objections&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone|away: but 1.0.4 is basically blocked in the password stuff&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone|away: and respinning bookimarks backup&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone|away: and prob KS&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] ardissone|away: i can get someone to land all the little bugs, though&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] ardissone|away: so that it can be ready when those are&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] mento: so no esimate on when to anticipate 104 yet&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] mento: and 11a2 on hold&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] mento:&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] ardissone|away: m,hm &lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] ardissone|away: mento: 180branch patches&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] ardissone|away: do they need to sr?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:16pm] mento: judgment call&lt;br /&gt;
[12:16pm] mento: if it&amp;#039;s a simple adaptation of a 18 or trunk patch, not really&lt;br /&gt;
[12:16pm] ardissone|away: k&lt;br /&gt;
[12:16pm] ardissone|away: i&amp;#039;m not sure how simple adaptations Wevah&amp;#039;s are&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] Wevah: very simple&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] ardissone|away: the (null) one is redonkulously simple&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] froodian: i&amp;#039;ll get on those asap&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] ardissone|away: I&amp;#039;ll start plussing bugs then&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] Wevah: the only difference was that i had renamed the methods earlier on trunk/1.8 branch&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] ardissone|away: ok&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] Wevah: to be more accurate&lt;br /&gt;
[12:18pm] ardissone|away: oh, one more question&lt;br /&gt;
[12:18pm] ardissone|away: mento: do we take the EULA fix there&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] mento: was the fix a new version of the eula?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] ardissone|away: s/Corp/Found&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] ardissone|away: nothing new&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] mento: we can take that&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] ardissone|away: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353753&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] ardissone|away: k&lt;br /&gt;
[12:19pm] • mento is involved with any and all eula changes, i can&amp;#039;t keep &amp;#039;em straight sometimes.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] ardissone|away: heh&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] smorgan joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] ardissone|away: oh, now we can grill smorgan &lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] smorgan: Sorry, traffic again&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] mento: silly pacific time&lt;br /&gt;
[12:21pm] ardissone|away: smorgan: news on the keychain autofill stealing?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:22pm] smorgan: It sounds like they may be changing course at the FF end; I need to figure out where the real discussion is happening there and see if a decision has really been made&lt;br /&gt;
[12:22pm] ardissone|away:  &lt;br /&gt;
[12:22pm] ardissone|away: k&lt;br /&gt;
[12:22pm] ardissone|away: btw, intel-folks: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346111 could use some testing when it lands on 1.8.0&lt;br /&gt;
[12:22pm] kreeger-away: heh &amp;quot;redonkulously&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[12:23pm] ardissone|away: i don&amp;#039;t doubt the patch will fix the bug, but i really can&amp;#039;t test, being 10.3.9 and that&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] froodian: smorgan: 1.1a2 is on hold, per the discussion before you got here. how close would you say kqueue is?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] froodian: in 90% or time left&lt;br /&gt;
[12:26pm] smorgan: kqueue is very close; my comments were fairly small&lt;br /&gt;
[12:26pm] froodian: sweet &lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] smorgan: Are we holding just for landing and brief testing of kqueue?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] smorgan: Or is there other stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] ardissone|away: the password thing&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] smorgan: Hm&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] ardissone|away: although if fx is far from a solutuin, maybe not it&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] smorgan: I&amp;#039;ll have to see if that&amp;#039;s realistic for 1.1a2 or not&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] ardissone|away: also, getting the zoom fixes would be good&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] ardissone|away: mhm&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] froodian: and pop-up wrapping would be nice too&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] ardissone|away: and ^^^&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] froodian: basically, just for kqueue + pink&amp;#039;s q&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] smorgan: If they are still doing the domain check as a partial fix, we can go ahead with that for now&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] smorgan: I&amp;#039;ll look into it&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] ardissone|away: did smorgan r both zoom patches, or did  it become a combo patch?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29pm] smorgan: I haven&amp;#039;t done the second yet; didn&amp;#039;t quite have time&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29pm] smorgan: I&amp;#039;ll look at it tomorrow morning&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29pm] ardissone|away: k&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29pm] froodian: oh, bug 359662 would be really good too&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29pm] ardissone|away: oh, yes indeed&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] froodian: since it&amp;#039;s a pretty debilitating regression&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] ardissone|away: mhm&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] smorgan: Yeah, that&amp;#039;s high on my list to review&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] smorgan: Probably also tomorrow morning&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] froodian: coolness &lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] smorgan: I&amp;#039;m trying to drain my queue, really I am&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] froodian: you&amp;#039;ve got a lot on your plate &lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] ardissone|away: we just keep filling it, which is part of the problem&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] ardissone|away: also, the time of year sucks &lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] smorgan: Fixes are good&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] froodian: yeah, it doesn&amp;#039;t help that my main procrastination is fixing camino bugs...&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] froodian:&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] froodian: alright, anybody have anything else they want to cover today?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] ardissone|away: if anyone feels like making branch patches&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] ardissone|away: for bookmarks backup (or KS!), that&amp;#039;d be one less thing for smorgan&lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] ardissone|away: and would help 1.0.4 along&lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] smorgan: If anyone else wants to brainstorm popup blocker UI, feel free&lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] ardissone|away: it&amp;#039;d be good to get either a2 or 1`.0.4 out before the holidays, but we don&amp;#039;t want to kill ourselves or do shoddy work....&lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] smorgan: I really don&amp;#039;t think my mock is going to fly&lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] ardissone|away: i think it&amp;#039;s good, with some wording changes &lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] smorgan: &amp;quot;Always&amp;quot; is ambiguous at best, misleading at worst&lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] ardissone|away: Remember&lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] smorgan: Yeah, I thought about that&lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] ardissone|away: was my thought for that&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] smorgan: I&amp;#039;m not sure it conveys enough all by itself&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] smorgan: And it&amp;#039;s a bit weird before as Remember&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] smorgan: And the whole thing looks weird with it after&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] ardissone|away: &amp;quot;Remember my decsions for this site?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] ardissone|away: ah, the layout&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] smorgan: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] ardissone|away: hrm&lt;br /&gt;
[12:36pm] smorgan: So anyway, if &amp;lt;holiday of your choice&amp;gt; brings anyone inspiration, please chime in on the bug &lt;br /&gt;
[12:36pm] smorgan: I&amp;#039;m still trying to kick around ideas too&lt;br /&gt;
[12:37pm] murph: i&amp;#039;ll check it out..&lt;br /&gt;
[12:40pm] ardissone|away: ok, anything else?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:40pm] froodian: alright, see you all next week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:40pm] ardissone|away: everyone have a good week&lt;br /&gt;
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