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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><!--</del>* <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">1.1a2 still getting good reviews (Googlers using it and loving it, low Talkback, Om sent </del>pink <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a great note [@12:24])</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* pink <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is on vacation this week; mento's the go-to for sr</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* pink: need to get more people using the branch (from </del>1.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">0.x) </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">see how great we're doing</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* 1.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">1b1 was set </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">freeze on 15 Feb</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ardissone</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">also for Talkback/bug shake-out purposes</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">discussed the alternatives</ins>:</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">1.1b1 set for l10n </del>freeze<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">/spinning </del>on <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">2-</del>15 <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(two weeks) </del>and release <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Tues after that</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** </ins>freeze on 15 <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Feb as planned </ins>and release <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">b1 without some big bits of features and do a post-b1 l10n freeze</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">only 6-8 l10n-impacting </del>bugs <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">left</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* push b1 back and land all/most of the b1 ?/+ </ins>bugs</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">kqueue getting closer</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'''new freeze is 21 Feb'''</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">pink out-</del>of-<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">town 2-10 to 2-17</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** our blockers/potential blockers are all in good shape, so this is feasible</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** bugs</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* flashblock sr+build foo is blocking half </ins>of <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the pop</ins>-<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">up bugs</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** kqueue got r+ and should be second in line for sr</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Tinderboxen</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Tinderboxen</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** mento <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">thinks part of </del>pawn's <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">prob is a leak in a long</del>-<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">running process (swap eats up all disk)</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** mento <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">worked some magic, and </ins>pawn's <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">been green/orange ever since, mostly green :)</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">while flying with mento</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">preed agreed </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">give us a dedicated xserve and space on a shared one</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* Camino 1.0.4</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** Officially minused KS and passwd stealing for 1.0.4, nominated for 1.0.5</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** Got the train rolling on the rest of the remaining camino</ins>-<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">1.0.4?</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Gecko was set for 21 Feb release; we won't match that exactly</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">but we'll try </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">be close</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Bugs</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Bugs</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** still have some nasty Core bugs we need to try and work on</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** {{bug|<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">368395</ins>}} - <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Encourage the user not to restore after crash if the dialog has been thrown recently</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** {{bug|<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">295755</del>}} - <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Flashblock</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">consensus was that </ins>we <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">wanted to land strings to give ourselves the option of adding </ins>this <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">dialogue, either </ins>for 1.1 <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">proper or 1.1.x</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** we<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'ll take </del>this for 1.1</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** {{bug|<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">364550</ins>}} - <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Need spelling UI to allow selection/changing spell check language</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** mento prefers landing flashblock src in cvs and using makefile to build the jar; he'll do that work if ardissone keeps on him</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"best" way </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do </ins>this <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is use the standard NSSpellChecker panel</ins>, but <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">there are bugs in </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Core behavior that "Find Next" needs. murph </ins>has <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">a reasonable work-around</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">so </ins>we <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">want to use that and push </ins>for <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Core fixes on trunk</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** {{bug|<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">248160</del>}} - <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[l10n] Translate chrome strings on the fly</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>**<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">do</ins>: <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">what strings do </ins>we <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">need </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">land before freeze?</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it's really too late for us </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">take </del>this <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(given # of new strings + branch issues)</del>, but <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">if </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">code </del>has <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">branch approval by the time 1.1 ships</del>, we<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'d like it </del>for <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'''1</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">2'''</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>** <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">{{Bug|343937}} - Default "unblock popup" behavior should not include adding site </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Exceptions List</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** Mockups</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[http://escapedthoughts.com/popup1.png 1], [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup2.png 2] [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup3.png 3], [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup4.png 3 (tooltips showing)]</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** We'll use Mockup 3</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** There was much discussion about how white/blacklisting should work and whether </del>we <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">can bend the Core code </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">act like we want: whitelisting www.cnn.com will allow any popups triggered by www.cnn.com, even if they are served by evilads.aol.com, and not show the bar; blacklisting would similarly disallow those and not show the bar; smorgan will investigate--></del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr>
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Sardisson: stub this in
2007-02-17T04:19:34Z
<p>stub this in</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>This is an overall summary of the meeting we had. If you see any issues with it, feel free to edit the page (and note where in the [[Status Meetings:2007-02-14:Log|log]] you're citing from).<br />
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== Attendance ==<br />
ardissone, froodian, kreeger, mento, murph, smorgan, ss<br />
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==Executive Summary==<br />
<!--* 1.1a2 still getting good reviews (Googlers using it and loving it, low Talkback, Om sent pink a great note [@12:24])<br />
** pink: need to get more people using the branch (from 1.0.x) to see how great we're doing<br />
** ardissone: also for Talkback/bug shake-out purposes<br />
* 1.1b1 set for l10n freeze/spinning on 2-15 (two weeks) and release Tues after that<br />
** only 6-8 l10n-impacting bugs left<br />
** kqueue getting closer<br />
** pink out-of-town 2-10 to 2-17<br />
* Tinderboxen<br />
** mento thinks part of pawn's prob is a leak in a long-running process (swap eats up all disk)<br />
** while flying with mento, preed agreed to give us a dedicated xserve and space on a shared one<br />
* Bugs<br />
** still have some nasty Core bugs we need to try and work on<br />
** {{bug|295755}} - Flashblock<br />
*** we'll take this for 1.1<br />
*** mento prefers landing flashblock src in cvs and using makefile to build the jar; he'll do that work if ardissone keeps on him<br />
** {{bug|248160}} - [l10n] Translate chrome strings on the fly<br />
*** it's really too late for us to take this (given # of new strings + branch issues), but if the code has branch approval by the time 1.1 ships, we'd like it for '''1.2'''<br />
** {{Bug|343937}} - Default "unblock popup" behavior should not include adding site to Exceptions List<br />
*** Mockups: [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup1.png 1], [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup2.png 2] [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup3.png 3], [http://escapedthoughts.com/popup4.png 3 (tooltips showing)]<br />
*** We'll use Mockup 3<br />
*** There was much discussion about how white/blacklisting should work and whether we can bend the Core code to act like we want: whitelisting www.cnn.com will allow any popups triggered by www.cnn.com, even if they are served by evilads.aol.com, and not show the bar; blacklisting would similarly disallow those and not show the bar; smorgan will investigate--></div>
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