http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Status_Meetings%3A2007-09-12%3ALogStatus Meetings:2007-09-12:Log - Revision history2026-09-06T05:56:13ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.34.4http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/index.php?title=Status_Meetings:2007-09-12:Log&diff=8348&oldid=prevSardisson: log2007-09-12T16:59:40Z<p>log</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div><pre>[12:43am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2007-09-12:Agenda".<br />
[12:00pm] smorgan joined the chat room.<br />
[12:02pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you.<br />
[12:02pm] pinkerton joined the chat room.<br />
[12:02pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by chanserv.<br />
[12:02pm] pinkerton: food brb<br />
[12:02pm] ardissone|away: k<br />
[12:03pm] ardissone|away: very small crowd today<br />
[12:08pm] pinkerton: school?<br />
[12:08pm] ardissone|away: dunno<br />
[12:09pm] ardissone|away: wasn't there school last week?<br />
[12:09pm] pinkerton: prolly yes<br />
[12:09pm] ardissone|away: jeff did say last night before the great server reboot that he couldn't amke it<br />
[12:09pm] ardissone|away: because he was pressured into giving a talk about his SoC at this very time<br />
[12:10pm] pinkerton: to whom?<br />
[12:10pm] pinkerton: to who?<br />
[12:10pm] pinkerton: shrugs<br />
[12:10pm] ardissone|away: to whom <br />
[12:10pm] pinkerton: k<br />
[12:10pm] ardissone|away: the compsci people?<br />
[12:10pm] ardissone|away: he wasn't specific, and i wasn't here then<br />
[12:10pm] pinkerton: oh at his school ok<br />
[12:11pm] pinkerton: i've been bad about my sr queue<br />
[12:11pm] pinkerton: this has been a long week<br />
[12:11pm] ardissone|away:<br />
[12:12pm] ardissone|away: one of the ones there is one of smorgan's fixes for the "camino stops working" bug<br />
[12:12pm] pinkerton: oh<br />
[12:13pm] pinkerton: ok, sorry, i didn't think it was anything urgent<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|away: the other fix we're still waiting on kreeger to r <br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|away: yeah, the site icon one catches exceptions that make us stop working<br />
[12:14pm] pinkerton: cute<br />
[12:14pm] ardissone|away: i thought peeja's toolbar items patch was blocking him getting paid, too, but i'm not positive about that one<br />
[12:15pm] pinkerton: he hasn't bugged me about it. i cleared his path on bookmarks/w&t for his check last week i think<br />
[12:15pm] ardissone|away: ok<br />
[12:15pm] pinkerton: do you know where we are with new icons for leopard?<br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|away: looking for an artist, i think<br />
[12:16pm] pinkerton: drat ok<br />
[12:16pm] pinkerton: ss: ping?<br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|away: he's apparently always in a meeting that runs really long<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone|away: i tried to get him here today because i thought i wouldn't be here<br />
[12:17pm] pinkerton: frank approached me about the slim possibility of funding some camino work, wanted to ask him about it<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone|away:<br />
[12:18pm] pinkerton: nothing to get our hopes up about, but thought he might know a bit more<br />
[12:18pm] pinkerton: wonder if it's because they're now supporting eudora and are feeling guilty<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone|away: possibility is better than slamming the door shut in our face<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone|away: heh<br />
[12:19pm] pinkerton: agreed, frank to his credit has never done that<br />
[12:19pm] ardissone|away: frank has always struck me as a good guy<br />
[12:19pm] pinkerton: yeah he is, caught between a rock and a hard place<br />
[12:19pm] ardissone|away: yeah...<br />
[12:20pm] kreeger joined the chat room.<br />
[12:20pm] ardissone|away: there's kreeger <br />
[12:20pm] pinkerton: well i'll poke ss if i see him around later<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|away: i'll poke him, too, if i see him when you're gone<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|away: kreeger: how's the kqueue review looking?<br />
[12:21pm] kreeger: started up again last night, had to move down the street last week/weekend<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|away: k<br />
[12:22pm] ardissone|away: anyway<br />
[12:22pm] ardissone|away: nothing really new on the 1.6 front<br />
[12:23pm] ardissone|away: no code fixes landed last week<br />
[12:23pm] ardissone|away: we need to ping batwood again about smorgan's comments on his patches<br />
[12:23pm] ardissone|away: er, http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2007-09-12:Agenda if you don't already have it open<br />
[12:24pm] smorgan: He emailed me<br />
[12:24pm] ardissone|away: ah<br />
[12:24pm] smorgan: He said he'd be travelling for about a week, but would look into moving off xpfe<br />
[12:24pm] ardissone|away: nice<br />
[12:25pm] smorgan: Sorry I haven't had a lot of time/enegery for Camino recently<br />
[12:25pm] pinkerton: i've been making sure of that <br />
[12:25pm] ardissone|away: it seems like that's been a general affliction <br />
[12:26pm] smorgan: Fixing trunks content handling is my next priority, since that's really annoying me, but then 1.6 is back at the top of my list<br />
[12:26pm] ardissone|away: yeah, we need to not let that fester<br />
[12:27pm] ardissone|away: i wonder if it's the cause of peepo's bug?<br />
[12:27pm] smorgan: I've got it partially fixed locally<br />
[12:27pm] ardissone|away:<br />
[12:27pm] smorgan: It's pretty much just hooking up a prompt and looking into whether we need to ship that rdf file now<br />
[12:27pm] ardissone|away: we have a mimeTypes.rdf in the profile<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone|away: but it was blank, iirc<br />
[12:28pm] smorgan: Yeah, my thought was we probably don't need to ship anything and it will be created as needed<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone|away: but you never know with moz <br />
[12:28pm] smorgan: I'll see once our front-end stuff is hooked up<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone|away: do we know more about how long mento's "a few weeks off" was going to be?<br />
[12:29pm] You are now known as ardissone.<br />
[12:30pm] ardissone: not that i want to pull him out of time off, just when we might expect him back <br />
[12:31pm] ardissone: i don't know if anyone can find anything useful in the nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement stacks or not<br />
[12:31pm] ardissone: but that's our new #5 topcrash<br />
[12:31pm] smorgan: Is there a bug?<br />
[12:32pm] ardissone: comments have been less-than-useful; just startup, or running a search<br />
[12:32pm] ardissone: no<br />
[12:32pm] ardissone: i was too tired last night <br />
[12:33pm] ardissone: i'll try to catch sam and see if i can get some emails to try, too<br />
[12:33pm] ardissone: speaking of sam<br />
[12:33pm] ardissone: meet-up notes are up: http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Camino_Meet-up:2007:Notes<br />
[12:34pm] ardissone: i'll try this week to sync the 1.6 scoping docs and bugzilla with the the 1.6 plan there<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: SoC<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:03pm] jeff: ss: I wont be at the mtg tomorrow, I was pressured into giving a talk about my SoC experiences at the same time of the mtg<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:03pm] ss: Ah...<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:04pm] jeff: so, updates from me are that I am just sorry I have not submitted some tabspose patches I have sitting around and will post them as soon as I can<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:05pm] jeff: but I will be back with a vengeance in about 5 days<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] ss: You better.<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] ss: Or I'll come over there<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] jeff: I have been neglecting camino for the past week and a half and I am already feeling down about it<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: [11:06pm] ss: And make you buy me dinner.<br />
[12:37pm] pinkerton: lol<br />
[12:38pm] pinkerton: oh taht was cool of him<br />
[12:38pm] pinkerton: (the notes)<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone: yeah, the rest of us are no longer in the dark <br />
[12:38pm] pinkerton: haha, he included webkit<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: i don't know about peeja, other than he was going to look at the bookmark-eating dataloss bug this week<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone: and i've been filing various bugs as i find them<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone: the big issue with AS right now is that we can't actually create new windows and tabs<br />
[12:41pm] ardissone: which due to AS/Cocoa stupidness, will require some hairy wrapper work in our guts AIUI<br />
[12:44pm] peeja|sleep joined the chat room.<br />
[12:44pm] peeja|sleep was promoted to operator by you.<br />
[12:44pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you.<br />
[12:44pm] ardissone: peeja|sleep: we were just talking about you <br />
[12:45pm] peeja|sleep is now known as peeja.<br />
[12:45pm] peeja: great <br />
[12:45pm] pinkerton: is it true what perez said about you!?!?!? <br />
[12:45pm] smorgan: ... and in conclusion that's why I think he's a slimeball<br />
[12:45pm] smorgan: oh, crap<br />
[12:45pm] smorgan:<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: hehe<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: [12:39pm] ardissone: i don't know about peeja, other than he was going to look at the bookmark-eating dataloss bug this week<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: [12:40pm] ardissone: and i've been filing various bugs as i find them<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: [12:40pm] ardissone: the big issue with AS right now is that we can't actually create new windows and tabs<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: [12:41pm] ardissone: which due to AS/Cocoa stupidness, will require some hairy wrapper work in our guts AIUI<br />
[12:46pm] peeja: ardissone: yes, and yes<br />
[12:46pm] smorgan: And if opening bookmarks is using page content, we need a bug about that too<br />
[12:46pm] peeja: i haven't really done much this week, still adjusting to being in classes again<br />
[12:47pm] peeja: smorgan: sorry?<br />
[12:47pm] smorgan: There was discussion in channel recently suggesting that opening a boomarklet via AS uses page context<br />
[12:48pm] peeja: yes, well that's not strictly true<br />
[12:48pm] smorgan: Problem solved then <br />
[12:48pm] peeja: its really that setting the url of a tab to a javascript: url does <br />
[12:48pm] peeja: which means as long as people can execute javascript from the location bar in page context, we'll have that problem<br />
[12:49pm] smorgan: I don't follow<br />
[12:49pm] peeja: unless we "set url" via a completely different mechanism<br />
[12:49pm] smorgan: Why can't we change the way AS works?<br />
[12:49pm] smorgan: Er, the way we handle AS, rather<br />
[12:49pm] peeja: we can, I suppose, but we'll need a way to change the url of a BW that doesn't execute javascript: in page context<br />
[12:50pm] peeja: that's Browser Wrapper<br />
[12:50pm] smorgan: Sorry, this can be offline, we just need a bug about it<br />
[12:50pm] peeja: ok, I'm just saying it's not that simple. but it's worth a bug.<br />
[12:50pm] ardissone: i don't really have anything else for today; everything's pretty much the same as last week<br />
[12:51pm] ardissone: except the sr queue is now almost the size of the r queue <br />
[12:51pm] ardissone: (which size hasn't changed in months)<br />
[12:51pm] pinkerton: i'll get there<br />
[12:52pm] ardissone: (see the log if you missed the earlier talk about that)<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone: anyone else have anything to add?<br />
[12:55pm] kreeger left the chat room.<br />
[12:57pm] ardissone: ok then<br />
[12:57pm] ardissone: have a good rest of the week everyone<br />
[12:57pm] peeja left the chat room.</pre></div>Sardisson