Status Meetings:2007-10-03:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ updates from sam and me

2007-10-03T05:42:48Z

General Plans: updates from sam and me

Sardisson: /* Queries */ p

2007-10-03T05:39:04Z

Queries: p

Sardisson: /* Queues */ queues

2007-10-03T05:29:45Z

Queues: queues

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ mention trunk evil

2007-10-03T05:23:48Z

General Plans: mention trunk evil

Sardisson: /* 1.6a1pre */ l10n

2007-10-01T16:40:25Z

1.6a1pre: l10n

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ fix a typo, add some commentary :p

2007-10-01T05:53:15Z

General Plans: fix a typo, add some commentary :p

Sardisson: partly ready for the week

2007-10-01T05:50:20Z

partly ready for the week

New page

Wed 03 Oct 9am PST (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 1.6
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]
*** Meet-up additions added to the scoping document and Bugzilla; no pre-meet-up bugs were removed (mostly P3/polish-type bugs and regressions)
*** Fixed bugs on the list currently indicated by <s>strikethrough</s>
*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is (much?) of Tabsposé (P3) and AppleScript (P3), but most of other "big" features not underway (at least not "publicly")
*** batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs (update?)
*** murph has patch for search editor (in smorgan's queue) and has mostly wrangled OpenSearch
* Camnino 1.6a1
** October 10th
** mento is doing breakpad
** smorgan is doing software update (but see [[#1.6a1|below]])
* [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]
** Gecko 1.8.1.8 expected in 1-2 weeks
** The two known "Camino stops working" bugfixes have been landed
** Third known "Camino stops working" is {{bug|397053}} (Flash descriptors)
* [[Releases:1.5.1:Links|Camino 1.5.1]]
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM151/index.html Talkback]

*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #1
*** '''NEW''' - [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and no longer in top 5)
*** '''NEW''' - topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv
*** '''NEW''' - topcrashes in [http://tinyurl.com/ytwy2t libSystem.B related to site icons]: [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=36266174 sample]
** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
* Tinderboxen
** binus is hanging on grey Apple while booting :( (binus is doing 1.5.x coverage and is our 10.3 test box)
** maya is now running 1.5 branch; 1.8.0 branch is dead
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Most of the patches in the r queue have been waiting over a month for review.

==Specific bugs that need action==
=== 1.6a1pre ===
* {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds
** See [[Development:Planning:Software Update]]
*** Where do we stand on tree approval?
* AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6

=== 1.5.2 ===
* A couple of web-compat bugs popped up; smorgan has one fixed already

===Other (if there's time)===

* UNCOs
** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
*** Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1
* Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.

==Queries==

===Camino 1.6a1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F Blocking ?] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B Blocking +] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] 

===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F Blocking ?] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B Blocking +] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-09-19&chfieldto=2007-09-26&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] 

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed]

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 ** mento is doing breakpad
 ** smorgan is doing software update (but see [[#1.6a1|below]])
 * [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]
-** Gecko 1.8.1.8 expected in 1-2 weeks
+** Gecko 1.8.1.8 code freeze Weds night; release expected in 1-2 weeks (16th?)
 ** The two known "Camino stops working" bugfixes have been landed
 ** Third known "Camino stops working" is {{bug|397053}} (Flash descriptors)
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 <!--*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 442 crashes] already
 *** [http://tinyurl.com/24jo3q 19] of 37 libobjc crashes are known 1passwd crasher; only 3 have email listed, but froodian mailed those 3-->
 *** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #1 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
 *** '''NEW''' - [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and no longer in top 5)

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 ===Camino 1.6a1===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] (3) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}<!--  -->
 ===Camino 1.6===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] <!-- (36) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (36) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (5) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] (5) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but P1 bugs are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] <!-- (518) {{greyText|[+5 since last week]}} ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (516) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} <!-- ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-09-19&chfieldto=2007-09-26&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] <!-- ('''4''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} (1 were website, 1 was trunk-only, 2 were "stops working" bugs) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-09-26&chfieldto=2007-10-02&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''7''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} (2 were 1.6, 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) <!--  -->
 ==Queues==

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 ==Queues==
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] <!-- (7) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} '''4 untargeted'''  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (7) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} '''4 untargeted''' <!--  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] <!-- (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (3) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}<!--  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (1) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}<!--  -->

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 ** maya is now running 1.5 branch; 1.8.0 branch is dead
 * Weekly Bugs and Queues update
-** Most of the patches in the r queue have been waiting over a month for review; we need to work on spreading around the review burden and then actually doing the reviews ;)
+** Most of the patches in the r queue have been waiting over a month for review; we need to work on spreading around the review burden and then actually doing the reviews ;)  smorgan has been occupied by trying to get us back from the dark hole of nsHandlerService on the trunk.
 ==Specific bugs that need action==

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 ** See [[Development:Planning:Software Update]]
 *** Where do we stand on tree approval?
 * AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6