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Sardisson: /* General Plans */ tired

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General Plans: tired

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2007-10-17T06:09:46Z

1.6a1pre: add bug #

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2007-10-17T06:08:27Z

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2007-10-17T06:06:40Z

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Sardisson: ready

2007-10-15T01:46:48Z

ready

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Wed 17 Oct 9am PST (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 1.6
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]
*** Meet-up additions added to the scoping document and Bugzilla; no pre-meet-up bugs were removed (mostly P3/polish-type bugs and regressions)
*** Fixed bugs on the list currently indicated by <s>strikethrough</s>
*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is (much?) of Tabsposé (P3) and AppleScript (P3), but most of other "big" features not underway (at least not "publicly")
**** Shall we officially move Tabsposé to 2.0?
*** jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
*** batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs (update?)
*** murph has patch for search editor (in smorgan's queue) and has mostly wrangled OpenSearch
* Camino 1.6a1
** Take 2 date is October 17th (that's today!) - status?
** mento is doing breakpad
** smorgan is doing software update (but see [[#1.6a1|below]])
** nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1
** please help out with any P1s (see query below)
* [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]
** Gecko 1.8.1.8 release expected Thurs (Oct 18)
** RC [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nightly/2007-10-10-10-1.5.2/Camino.dmg here]
** The two known "Camino stops working" bugs are included in this release
** Third known "Camino stops working" is {{bug|397053}} (Flash descriptors)
* [[Releases:1.5.1:Links|Camino 1.5.1]]
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM151/index.html Talkback]

*** Need to poke libobjc and libSystemB crashes yet to see if anything is useful/new
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #1 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
*** '''NEW''' - Topcrash in [http://tinyurl.com/2pb9c6 CoreFoundation] - seems to be RealPlayer, 3rd party CMs, Flash, asstd.
*** Topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv
*** Topcrashes in [http://tinyurl.com/ytwy2t libSystem.B related to site icons]: [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=36266174 sample]
*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and no longer in top 5)
** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
* Tinderboxen
** binus is hanging on grey Apple while booting :( (binus is doing 1.5.x coverage and is our 10.3 test box)
** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update

==Specific bugs that need action==
=== 1.6a1pre ===
* {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds
** See [[Development:Planning:Software Update]]
*** Where do we stand on tree approval?
*** What about localization? Will need to work something out to not build l10n in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
* AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6

=== 1.5.3 ===

===Other (if there's time)===

* UNCOs
** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
*** Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1
* Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.

==Queries==

===Camino 1.6a1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F Blocking ?] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B Blocking +] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] 

===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F Blocking ?] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B Blocking +] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-03&chfieldto=2007-10-10&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] 

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]

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 ** please help out with any P1s (see query below)
 * [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]
-** Gecko 1.8.1.8 release expected Thurs (Oct 18)
+** Gecko 1.8.1.8 release expected Thurs (Oct 18), pending 10.5 triage
-** RC [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nightly/2007-10-10-10-1.5.2/Camino.dmg here]
+** RC [http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nightly/2007-10-10-10-1.5.2/Camino.dmg here]; waiting on l10n build yet
 ** The two known "Camino stops working" bugs are included in this release
 ** Third known "Camino stops working" is {{bug|397053}} (Flash descriptors)
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 ** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
 * Weekly Bugs and Queues update
+** Same old story; two-thirds of the r? requests are older than a month.
 ==Specific bugs that need action==

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 * {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds
 ** See [[Development:Planning:Software Update]]
-*** Where do we stand on tree approval?
+*** Tree approval bug filed - {{bug|399977}}
 *** What about localization?  Will need to work something out to not build l10n in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
 * AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6

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 ==Queues==
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] <!-- (10) {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} '''4 untargeted'''  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (9) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} '''4 untargeted''' <!--  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] <!-- (1) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (2) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
 <!--
 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->

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 ===Camino 1.6a1===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (3) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] (4) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
 ===Camino 1.6===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] <!-- (37) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (38) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}<!--   -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (7) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] (7) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] <!-- (502) {{greyText|[-14 since last week]}} ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (508) {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} <!-- ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-03&chfieldto=2007-10-10&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] <!-- ('''10''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} (1 was 1.6, 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-10&chfieldto=2007-10-17&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''1''') {{greyText|[-9 since last week]}} (1.6 P1) <!-- , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
 ==Queues==