Status Meetings:2007-10-24:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ oops

2007-10-24T16:12:08Z

General Plans: oops

Sardisson: /* 1.6a1pre */ cl's bug report

2007-10-24T16:07:42Z

1.6a1pre: cl's bug report

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ queues

2007-10-24T05:51:13Z

General Plans: queues

Sardisson: /* Other (if there's time) */ add webfeeds

2007-10-24T05:50:23Z

Other (if there's time): add webfeeds

Sardisson: /* Queues */ oops

2007-10-24T05:48:32Z

Queues: oops

Sardisson: /* Queues */ q

2007-10-24T05:48:07Z

Queues: q

Sardisson: /* Queries */ p

2007-10-24T05:30:51Z

Queries: p

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ talkback stats

2007-10-24T05:20:01Z

General Plans: talkback stats

Sardisson: /* 1.6a1pre */ trying to list known issues on the swupdate path

2007-10-24T04:40:54Z

1.6a1pre: trying to list known issues on the swupdate path

Sardisson: /* 1.6a1pre */ link to the proto

2007-10-24T04:09:50Z

1.6a1pre: link to the proto

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 ** Landed fixes for two bugs that needed xpt pickups (but only for 1_5 yet)
 ** Will try to pick up some l10n fixes/new languages for 1.5.3
-** Gecko 1.8.1.8 release expected Thurs (Oct 18), pending 10.5 triage
+** Gecko 1.8.1.9 release expected Thurs (Nov 1)
 ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM152/index.html Talkback]
 <!--*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 442 crashes] already

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 ** localization - will need to work something out to not build l10ns in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
 ** EULA - see [http://groups.google.com/group/sparkleplus/browse_thread/thread/3effda7dd51fd282] for a possible method/hack
-** cl found a crash bug in sparkle :p
+** cl found a [http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ticket/67 crash bug in sparkle] :p
 *** [12:14am] cl: it's crashing in checkForUpdatesAndNotify: when you cancel an active download, then initiate two update checks rapidly in succession<br>[12:15am] cl: and the stack trace shows the crash in Sparkle code, which leads me to believe it isn't a problem in the app itself.
 * AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6

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 ** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 "for a little while"
 * Weekly Bugs and Queues update
 ==Specific bugs that need action==

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 ===Other (if there's time)===
 * UNCOs
 ** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen

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 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (10) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} '''4 untargeted'''<!--   -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] <!-- (4) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (4) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
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 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=checkin-needed&chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}
 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=project&chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --><!--  -->

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 ===Camino 1.6a1===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (4) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}<!--  -->
 ===Camino 1.6===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] <!-- (38) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (36) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}<!--   -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] <!-- (7) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] (6) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] <!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}<!--  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] <!-- (508) {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (509) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- ''cl led an UNCO triage and CLOSEME closing'' '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-10&chfieldto=2007-10-17&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] <!-- ('''1''') {{greyText|[-9 since last week]}} (1.6 P1) , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&chfieldfrom=2007-10-17&chfieldto=2007-10-24&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''4''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} (1.6-targeted strings cleanup, 1.5.3 relnotes) <!-- , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
 ==Queues==

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 ** nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1
 ** please help out with any P1s (see query below)
-* [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]
+* [[Releases:1.5.2:Links|Camino 1.5.2]]/Camino 1.5.3
 ** Released last Fri (Oct 19)
 ** 1.5.3/Gecko 1.8.1.9 coming soon to fix serious Gecko regressions
 ** Will try to pick up some l10n fixes/new languages for 1.5.3
 ** Gecko 1.8.1.8 release expected Thurs (Oct 18), pending 10.5 triage
-<!--
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM152/index.html Talkback]
 <!--*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 442 crashes] already
 *** [http://tinyurl.com/24jo3q 19] of 37 libobjc crashes are known 1passwd crasher; only 3 have email listed, but froodian mailed those 3-->
-<!--
+*** 14 of 19 libobjc crashes are 1passwd; only 3 have email listed, but we'll mail them
-*** Need to poke libobjc and libSystemB crashes yet to see if anything is useful/new
+*** Flash is #1, libGL (#6) is DiVX, libSystemB (#4, #7) is plugin-related
-*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #1 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
+*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
-*** '''NEW''' - Topcrash in [http://tinyurl.com/2pb9c6 CoreFoundation] - seems to be RealPlayer, 3rd party CMs, Flash, asstd.
+*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and #9 in 1.5.2)
-*** Topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv
+*** Topcrashes in 1) DesktopServicesPriv and 2) random hex + Spotlight + DesktopServicesPriv {{greyText|latter not showing yet}}
-*** Topcrashes in [http://tinyurl.com/ytwy2t libSystem.B related to site icons]:  [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=36266174 sample]
+*** 1.5.1 leftovers
-*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino15&platform=All&buildid=2007080914&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info; no replies so far, and no longer in top 5)
+**** Topcrash in [http://tinyurl.com/2pb9c6 CoreFoundation] - seems to be RealPlayer, 3rd party CMs, Flash, asstd. {{greyText|not showing in 1.5.2 yet}}
--->
+**** Topcrashes in [http://tinyurl.com/ytwy2t libSystem.B related to site icons]:  [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=36266174 sample] {{greyText|not showing yet}}
 ** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything
 * Tinderboxen

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 === 1.6a1pre ===
 * {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds
-** See [[Development:Planning:Software Update]]
+** Tree approval granted - {{bug|399977}} (will also need to file a about:license change bug)
-*** Tree approval granted - {{bug|399977}} (will also need to file a about:license change bug)
+*** {{greyText|XXXsa}} about:license should be enough that we don't need it separately in the readme; other MIT licenses (e.g. JEP) are only there
-**** {{greyText|XXXsa}} about:license should be enough that we don't need it separately in the readme; other MIT licenses (e.g. JEP) are only there
+** objdir support
-*** What about localization?  Will need to work something out to not build l10n in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don't have to re-localize
+** framework copy issue
 * AppleScript landing follow-up bugs - several of these need to be addressed for 1.6
 ** {{bug|394821}}: AS snippet is behaving correctly (according to applescript), but can delete bookmark folders unexpectedly.  Do we need to workaround somehow?  Should we release an [[Development:Camino_AppleScript_Guide|AS guide]] with 1.6?