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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;appease sam&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 07:17, 19 November 2007&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l4&quot; &gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Camino 1.6&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Camino 1.6&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*** Meet-up additions added to the scoping document and Bugzilla; no pre-meet-up bugs were removed (mostly P3/polish-type bugs and regressions)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*** Fixed bugs on the list currently indicated by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;strikethrough&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3), but most of other &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; features not underway (at least not &amp;quot;publicly&amp;quot;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3), but most of other &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; features not underway (at least not &amp;quot;publicly&amp;quot;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** swupdate should be about ready, pending the branch opening and not finding more bugs in Sparkle&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** swupdate should be about ready, pending the branch opening and not finding more bugs in Sparkle&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l35&quot; &gt;Line 35:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 33:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* 10.5 Issues  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* 10.5 Issues  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Visual&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Visual&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Status bar - {{Bug|401312}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Tab bar&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Tab bar&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;512x512 app &lt;/del&gt;icon - {{bug|&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;348065&lt;/del&gt;}}&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;App &lt;/ins&gt;icon &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;lines &lt;/ins&gt;- {{bug|&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;402967&lt;/ins&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Bugs&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Bugs&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Default apps - {{bug|401392}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** LSFileQuarantineExclusions seems not to be working (see comments in {{bug|393515}})&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** LSFileQuarantineExclusions seems not to be working (see comments in {{bug|393515}})&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Building&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Building&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Not currently possible to build Camino (trunk) with the 10.5 SDK - {{Bug|401812}}, {{Bug|401817}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|400165}}, {{bug|401768}} &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(waiting on new NSPR tag in client.mk)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*** Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|400165}}, {{bug|401768}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Tinderboxen&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Tinderboxen&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** linear-ish T* increases on boxset (Tp, Tdhtml dropped a bit recently; Ts still rising) and maya; maya reboot helped some&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** linear-ish T* increases on boxset (Tp, Tdhtml dropped a bit recently; Ts still rising) and maya; maya reboot helped some&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;binus is hanging &lt;/del&gt;on &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;grey Apple while booting :( (&lt;/del&gt;binus &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;is doing 1.5.x coverage and is our 10.3 test box)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;no new news &lt;/ins&gt;on binus&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 &amp;quot;for a little while&amp;quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Weekly Bugs and Queues update&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Weekly Bugs and Queues update&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** The review queue is pretty full, and a lot of it (plus poking hard bugs) is falling on smorgan; we need to spread the load around better, and get to reviews requested of us in a timely fashion (half of the r requests are older than 2 weeks).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** The review queue is pretty full, and a lot of it (plus poking hard bugs) is falling on smorgan; we need to spread the load around better, and get to reviews requested of us in a timely fashion (half of the r requests are older than 2 weeks).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sardisson</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Sardisson: getting ready for this week</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;getting ready for this week&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wed 21 Nov 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==General Plans==&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 1.6&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** Meet-up additions added to the scoping document and Bugzilla; no pre-meet-up bugs were removed (mostly P3/polish-type bugs and regressions)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Fixed bugs on the list currently indicated by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;strikethrough&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3), but most of other &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; features not underway (at least not &amp;quot;publicly&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*** swupdate should be about ready, pending the branch opening and not finding more bugs in Sparkle&lt;br /&gt;
*** jeff has been poking the tab dragging code; WIP on {{bug|160720}}, plus he&amp;#039;s working on animation&lt;br /&gt;
*** batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs (patch for multiple accounts in smorgan&amp;#039;s queue)&lt;br /&gt;
*** murph has patch for search editor (waiting smorgan review) and has mostly wrangled OpenSearch; should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window after that&lt;br /&gt;
*** ardissone has been fighting Makefiles for AppleScript feed handlers&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 1.6a1&lt;br /&gt;
** When?&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to land last swupdate ancillary bugs (see [[#1.6a1|below]])&lt;br /&gt;
** xpt wrangling&lt;br /&gt;
** nominate any major/dataloss bugs that need to be fixed for a1&lt;br /&gt;
** please help out with any P1s (see query below)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Releases:1.5.4:Links|Camino 1.5.4]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Gecko 1.8.1.10 coming right after Thanksgiving as a firedrill&lt;br /&gt;
** Our xpt fixes uncovered more xpt/component bugs (see {{bug|402243}}), so xpt/component audit is a must for 1.5.4&lt;br /&gt;
** Smokey and Stuart landed everything for 1.5.4 last week (except the xpt/component audit)&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM153/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.3&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--*** Flash is #1 &lt;br /&gt;
*** Crash on quit (&amp;quot;pass-the-buck&amp;quot; Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)&lt;br /&gt;
*** 5 of 20 [http://tinyurl.com/2e3b3o libobjc] (#3) crashes are 1passwd&lt;br /&gt;
*** libSystemB (#4) {{Bug|401835}} is plugin-related (where there are constant stacks; we have some emails, if there&amp;#039;s anything we might ask them)&lt;br /&gt;
*** CoreFoundation (#5)&lt;br /&gt;
*** DesktopServicesPriv (#6) - {{bug|402169}}, random hex + DesktopServicesPriv + Spotlight (#7)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Cocoa (#9) - random crashes on 10.5&lt;br /&gt;
*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&amp;amp;searchby=stacksig&amp;amp;match=contains&amp;amp;searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&amp;amp;vendor=MozillaOrg&amp;amp;product=Camino15&amp;amp;platform=All&amp;amp;buildid=2007080914&amp;amp;sdate=&amp;amp;stime=&amp;amp;edate=&amp;amp;etime=&amp;amp;sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] (#10) - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info); there&amp;#039;s also a live user in the [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=600994 forum]&lt;br /&gt;
--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.  Sam and Smokey landed a number of fixes this past week, so the list is slowly shrinking.&lt;br /&gt;
* 10.5 Issues &lt;br /&gt;
** Visual&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Status bar - {{Bug|401312}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Tab bar&lt;br /&gt;
*** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;512x512 app icon - {{bug|348065}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Bugs&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Default apps - {{bug|401392}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*** LSFileQuarantineExclusions seems not to be working (see comments in {{bug|393515}})&lt;br /&gt;
** Building&lt;br /&gt;
*** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Not currently possible to build Camino (trunk) with the 10.5 SDK - {{Bug|401812}}, {{Bug|401817}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Not currently possible to build PPC with gcc 3.3/10.3.9 SDK - {{bug|400165}}, {{bug|401768}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Tinderboxen&lt;br /&gt;
** linear-ish T* increases on boxset (Tp, Tdhtml dropped a bit recently; Ts still rising) and maya; maya reboot helped some&lt;br /&gt;
** binus is hanging on grey Apple while booting :( (binus is doing 1.5.x coverage and is our 10.3 test box)&lt;br /&gt;
** cb-x1 will continue running 1.8.0 &amp;quot;for a little while&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update&lt;br /&gt;
** The review queue is pretty full, and a lot of it (plus poking hard bugs) is falling on smorgan; we need to spread the load around better, and get to reviews requested of us in a timely fashion (half of the r requests are older than 2 weeks).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specific bugs that need action==&lt;br /&gt;
=== 1.6a1pre ===&lt;br /&gt;
* {{bug|201723}} - Search engine editor&lt;br /&gt;
** this basically needs reviews&lt;br /&gt;
* {{bug|178607}} - Keychain cannot save multiple passwords for the same host&lt;br /&gt;
** this needs reviews&lt;br /&gt;
* {{bug|185436}} - Software update for release builds&lt;br /&gt;
** Landed in the tree; waiting on tagging and then {{bug|403273}} to land patches that enable it &lt;br /&gt;
*** about:license bug filed {{bug|403164}}&lt;br /&gt;
** localization - {{bug|401017}} - will need to work something out to not build l10ns in en-only but get them to l10n teams so they don&amp;#039;t have to re-localize&lt;br /&gt;
** appcast - {{bug|401474}}&lt;br /&gt;
* {{bug|361103}} - When scrolling tabs, buttons should be disabled once the end of the bar is reached (before mouse up)&lt;br /&gt;
** In theory P1 UI bugs are all to be fixed for a1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 1.5.4 ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* More xpt/component goodness&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Other (if there&amp;#039;s time)===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* UNCOs&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|394651}} – Set &amp;quot;Accept cookies only from sites I visit&amp;quot; as default&lt;br /&gt;
*** Assuming Firefox figures out how to mitigate perf/tinderbox orange when they do this, do we want to take it, too?&lt;br /&gt;
** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen&lt;br /&gt;
*** Need to find a way to &amp;quot;promote&amp;quot; this as an area we&amp;#039;d like user feedback on in 1.6a1&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Trunk&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** {{bug|401383}}, {{bug|401328}} - tab bleeding not fixed for Camino, caused white rectangle, too; needs someone who can do some debugging&lt;br /&gt;
*** smorgan&amp;#039;s done a bit of poking here; be sure to nominate for blocking1.9? if the bug is in Core&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they&amp;#039;re Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.&lt;br /&gt;
** xpfe cleanup&lt;br /&gt;
*** {{bug|383085}} has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories&lt;br /&gt;
*** stefanh has a &amp;quot;build finishes, crashes on startup&amp;quot; MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;Standard8&amp;gt;stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: &amp;quot;stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that&amp;#039;ll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -&amp;gt; toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Queries==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Camino 1.6a1===&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%3F  Blocking ?] &amp;lt;!-- (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6a1%2B  Blocking +] &amp;lt;!--( 4) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} subtract FIXED here--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6a1- Blocking -] &amp;lt;!-- (2) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Camino 1.6===&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino1.6&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] &amp;lt;!-- (38) {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}}  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?] &amp;lt;!-- (5) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation)  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +] &amp;lt;!-- (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino1.6&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;priority=P1&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now P1 bugs] are blocking) subtract FIXED here--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] &amp;lt;!-- (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=---&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] &amp;lt;!-- (535) {{greyText|[&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;+1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; since last week]}}   &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;amp;resolution=---&amp;amp;chfieldfrom=2007-11-14&amp;amp;chfieldto=2007-11-21&amp;amp;chfield=resolution&amp;amp;chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] &amp;lt;!-- (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;9&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) {{greyText|[-10 since last week]}} (0 were 1.6-targeted, 3 were website) , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Queues==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=review&amp;amp;group=type Review] &amp;lt;!-- (10) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 untargeted&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=superreview&amp;amp;group=type Superreview] &amp;lt;!-- (3) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;amp;keywords=checkin-needed&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;amp;status_whiteboard=project&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!--  --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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