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==General Plans==
* Camino 1.6a1
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16a1/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2007120712&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 all 1.6a1 crashes])
** Are we getting enough user coverage? Talkback suggests no using the nsCOMPtr_base crashes for a comparison (only 85 crashes total in ca. 1 month)
* Camino 1.6b1
** Plan to build this afternoon and ship tomorrow
** Feature/l10n freeze is b2
** What P1/P2 features won't make it?
** What 10.5 [[#Other (if there's time)|UI integration]] fixes do we want?
*** Need call for designers to get mockups for 10.5 tab/bookmark bar refresh
** please help out with any nib/strings bugs
* Camino 1.6
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]
*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)
***: 2-3 AS follow-ups we really want (peeja)
*** swupdate: only minor stuff left
***: Ts regression {{bug|405542}}), appcast script ({{bug|401474}}), '''testing via b1'''
*** jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
***: update?
*** batwood has patches for both of his 1.6 bugs
***: mento left extensive sr comments
*** murph should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window
***: following-up on search bugs
*** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja
***: exec stuff now, or after landing the handlers
*** symbol-stripping bug
***: mento has solution; need cvs permission for APSL
*** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter
***: updates?
* [[Releases:1.5.4:Links|Camino 1.5.4]]
** Next Gecko release scheduled for [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases 5 Feb]. We need to push some crash fixes with it (close tabs, quit; Trash button crashes)
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM154/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.4
*** topcrasher (#1, #2, and #4) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
**** The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build. Are we not getting enough testing of the branch?
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #3 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
*** Flash is #5, #6 (the latter ultimately in Cocoa)


** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
* Tinderboxen
** no new news on binus or maya?
** ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 1.6b1pre ===
* {{bug|408593}} - Only check for the default browser once
** Re-discuss, with mento's objections?

=== 1.5.5 ===
* nothing right now

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}

* UNCOs
** {{bug|376930}} - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
*** Need to find a way to "promote" this as an area we'd like user feedback on in 1.6a1 (we note this as a feature on the preview site)
* '''Trunk'''
** mainly the background drawing/tab-bleeding-on-10.4 bug ({{bug|406784}}) remains (waiting on landing)
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
** xpfe cleanup
*** see older Agendas if you're interested 

==Queries==

===Camino 1.6b1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1%3F Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}  ''will be minused shortly''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 

===Camino 1.6b2===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b2%3F Blocking ?] (14) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b2%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b2- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 

===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (32) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F Blocking ?] (5) {{greyText|[-3 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B Blocking +] (2) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (540) {{greyText|['''-2''' since two weeks ago]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-01-09&chfieldto=2008-01-16&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''20''') {{greyText|[-12 since last week]}} ('''13''' were 1.6-targeted, 1 was website, 4 were trunk-only) 

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (7) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (1) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}

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 * Camino 1.6a1
 ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16a1/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2007120712&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 all 1.6a1 crashes])
-** Are we getting enough user coverage? Talkback suggests no using the nsCOMPtr_base crashes for a comparison (only 85 crashes total in ca. 1 month)
+** Need to make sure we get more user coverage for b1
 * Camino 1.6b1
 ** Plan to build this afternoon and ship tomorrow
@@ Line 33: / Line 33: @@
 ** Next Gecko release scheduled for [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases 5 Feb].  We need to push some crash fixes with it (close tabs, quit; Trash button crashes)
 ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM154/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.4
-*** topcrasher (#1, #2, and #4) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
+*** topcrasher (#1, #2, and #5) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
 **** The change that caused it landed on the MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH one month before we spun 1.5.4 RC build.  Are we not getting enough testing of the branch?
-*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #3 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
+*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #4 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch!)
-*** Flash is #5, #6 (the latter ultimately in Cocoa)
+*** Flash is #3
 <!--*** #6 is asstd libSystemB crashes, mostly related to plug-ins (Flash, QT, Divx, F4M)
 *** #7 is a 10.5.1 Flash-related crash, possibly all 1 user

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