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Wed 06 Feb 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 1.6b2
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16b2/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008011814&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 all 1.6b2 crashes]—only 33 so far, +10 since last week)
** Need to make sure we're getting enough user coverage (i.e., more than 1.6a1)
* Camino 1.6b3
** Start working on follow-ups from recent big landings
** Need to land remaining two big features ASAP
** Feature/l10n freeze is b3
** What P1/P2 features won't make it?
** What 10.5 [[#Other (if there's time)|UI integration]] fixes do we want?
*** Sam has a designer working on polishing several toolbar icons to look better on 10.5
**** Back, forward, reload, stop, home, print, view source, add bookmark, new tab, close tab, and history (main toolbar); Privacy, history (same as main toolbar), tabs, and downloads (prefs)
***** Designer doesn't like green-on-green for bookmarks; any change in bookmark color would require changing bookmark icon, tab group icon, show manager, and hide manager as well
*** Need call for designers to get mockups for 10.5 tab/bookmark bar refresh
** please help out with any nib/strings bugs
** Watch changes to perf when landing nibs
* Camino 1.6
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]
*** Most of Tab Scrolling is done, as is AppleScript (P3)
***: Patches up for both remaining AS follow-ups we really want (peeja); "close tab" waiting for sr, "bookmarks eating" needs new patch then sr
*** swupdate: only minor stuff left, but starting to find new bugs with a1/b1->b2 updates
***: Ts regression {{bug|405542}}), appcast script ({{bug|401474}}), '''testing via b2'''
*** jeff has been poking the tab dragging code
***: new patch coming?
*** murph should have a solution to fully establish a working key-view loop throughout the browser window
***: following-up on search bugs
*** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja
***: will try to land and re-enable tonight; filed bugs on exec'ing ({{bug|415319}}) and bigger icons
*** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter
***: updates?
* [[Releases:1.5.5:Links|Camino 1.5.5]]/[[Releases:1.5.4:Links|Camino 1.5.4]]
** Next Gecko release scheduled for [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases tomorrow].
** All Camino 1.5.5 bugs (save relnotes) landed; hope to build this afternoon(?) for RC testing
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM154/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.4
*** topcrasher (#1, #2, and #5) already fixed; it's on quit, but it's pretty heavy
*** Flash is #3
*** Crash on quit ("pass-the-buck" Core {{bug|349463}}) is #4 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch, waiting for sr for 2.5 months :( so far)

** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
* Tinderboxen
** no new news on binus or maya?
** ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)
* Dev docs
** Still some issues with the sample code and/or nib for the sample prefPane
** Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
*** Calling private APIs
*** Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
**: Add [[Development:Reviewing#Coding_for_latest-OS-version_features_or_using_private_APIs|here]]; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
**

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 1.6b3pre ===
* {{bug|408593}} - Only check for the default browser once
** Re-discuss, with mento's objections?
* {{bug|413910}} - Enable "Prevent sites from changing, moving or resizing windows" by default
** Should we land on branch (or just trunk)? It'll be "easy" to revert if needed; see comment 5-6.
* Various toolbar spinner bugs
* {{bug|376930}} (UNCO) - Overflow tab menu covers whole upper right part of my screen
** Have we gotten any feedback on this, positive or negative? Should we just WONTFIX?

=== 1.5.6 ===
* nothing right now

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}

* '''Trunk'''
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they're Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.
** xpfe cleanup
*** see older Agendas if you're interested 

==Queries==

===Camino 1.6b3===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%3F Blocking ?] (12) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3- Blocking -] (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} 

===Camino 1.6===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6] (27) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F Blocking ?] (7) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (557) {{greyText|[+4 since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-01-23&chfieldto=2008-01-30&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''16''') {{greyText|[-12 since last week]}} ('''6''' were 1.6-targeted, 4 were regressions from recent 1.6 fixes, 1 was website, 1 was 1.5.5-only) 

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (10) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (5) {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}}

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 ***: following-up on search bugs
 *** ardissone made progress on AppleScript feed handlers thanks to mento and peeja
-***: will try to land and re-enable tonight; filed bugs on exec'ing ({{bug|415319}}) and bigger icons
+***: re-enabled last night, but unify still barfing on the compiled script file; filed bugs on exec'ing ({{bug|415319}}) and bigger icons
 *** breakpad: mento was going to talk to ted about server-side stuff (and write our handlers); smorgan was going to write the reporter
 ***: updates?

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 **: Add [[Development:Reviewing#Coding_for_latest-OS-version_features_or_using_private_APIs|here]]; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help
 * Weekly Bugs and Queues update
-**
+** Slowly whittling 1.6 bugs down, but a number of bugs remain waiting in the r queue.
 ==Specific bugs that need action==

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 ===Camino 1.6b3===
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%3F  Blocking ?]  (12) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%3F  Blocking ?]  (10) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} <!-- subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%2B  Blocking +]  (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} subtract FIXED here-->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3%2B  Blocking +]  (3) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- {{greyText|not including some parts of swupdate}} subtract FIXED here-->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3- Blocking -]  (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!--  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6b3- Blocking -]  (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} ''(haspatch)''<!--  -->
 ===Camino 1.6===
 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6]  (27) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?]  (7) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?]  (9) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} (mostly bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +]  (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino1.6&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
 * [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!--  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  (557) {{greyText|[+4 since last week]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  (557) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month''  -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-01-23&chfieldto=2008-01-30&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''16''') {{greyText|[-12 since last week]}} ('''6''' were 1.6-targeted, 4 were regressions from recent 1.6 fixes, 1 was website, 1 was 1.5.5-only) <!-- , 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-01-30&chfieldto=2008-02-06&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  ('''6''') {{greyText|[-10 since last week]}} ('''1''' was 1.6-targeted, 4 were ad-blocking, 1 was relnotes) <!-- 1 was website, 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) -->
 ==Queues==

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 ==Queues==
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review]  (10) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} <!-- '''1 untargeted''' -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review]  (11) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} <!-- '''1 untargeted''' -->
-* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  (5) {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview]  (2) {{greyText|[-3 since last week]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->
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