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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wed 19 Mar 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg&lt;br /&gt;
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==General Plans==&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 1.6b3&lt;br /&gt;
** Released yesterday&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16b3/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&amp;amp;searchby=stacksig&amp;amp;match=contains&amp;amp;searchfor=&amp;amp;vendor=MozillaOrg&amp;amp;product=Camino16&amp;amp;platform=MacOSX&amp;amp;buildid=2008032420&amp;amp;sdate=&amp;amp;stime=&amp;amp;edate=&amp;amp;etime=&amp;amp;sortby=stack&amp;amp;rlimit=500 all 1.6b3 crashes]—7 so far)&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to make sure we&amp;#039;re getting enough user coverage&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 1.6&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Development:Planning:Camino 1.6|Scoping]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** swupdate: only minor stuff left, as long as nothing new appears with b3 testing&lt;br /&gt;
***: Ts regression {{bug|405542}}), &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;testing via b3&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** What 10.5 [[#Other (if there&amp;#039;s time)|UI integration]] fixes do we want?&lt;br /&gt;
*** We&amp;#039;ll take the other toolbar icons if they&amp;#039;re ready&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Releases:1.6:l10n]] shows l10n status; that plus website changes are all that really block&lt;br /&gt;
** Can someone fix cl&amp;#039;s nib for the prefPane docs? ({{bug|384800}} comment 18, 19, 26)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Releases:1.5.5:Links|Camino 1.5.5]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Hopefully last release of 1.5.x&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM155/index.html Talkback] for 1.5.5&lt;br /&gt;
*** Flash is #1&lt;br /&gt;
*** Crash on quit (&amp;quot;pass-the-buck&amp;quot; Core {{bug|349463}}) is #2 (bsmedberg has a trunk patch, got sr-)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #3/#5 are assorted 0xfffeff18/0xfffeff20 crashes (crashing deep in Apple code, various Kits, Frameworks and Toolboxes)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #4 is CoreFoundation (asstd, including several from 2-yr-old RealPlayer {{bug|336211}})&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--*** #4 is libobjc related to plug-ins&lt;br /&gt;
*** #5 is Cocoa (mostly QT and other plug-ins)&lt;br /&gt;
*** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&amp;amp;searchby=stacksig&amp;amp;match=contains&amp;amp;searchfor=nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement&amp;amp;vendor=MozillaOrg&amp;amp;product=Camino15&amp;amp;platform=All&amp;amp;buildid=2007080914&amp;amp;sdate=&amp;amp;stime=&amp;amp;edate=&amp;amp;etime=&amp;amp;sortby=bbid nsDocumentObserverList::RemoveElement] (#10) - {{bug|395916}} (Smokey emailed the two we have an email for, asking for Camino Diagnostics and more info); there&amp;#039;s also a live user in the [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=600994 forum]&lt;br /&gt;
--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Still cleaning up stuff from the website switch; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.&lt;br /&gt;
* Summer of Code 2008&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode08#Camino Our suggestions]; students apply this week&lt;br /&gt;
* Tinderboxen&lt;br /&gt;
** boxset stopped reporting to tinderbox last Thurs - {{bug|425138}}&lt;br /&gt;
** something&amp;#039;s wrong on cb-xserve01; reboot didn&amp;#039;t help - {{bug|421031}}&lt;br /&gt;
** no new news on binus or maya?&lt;br /&gt;
** ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); mini-mayaTrunk will go to the colo after Christmas(?)&lt;br /&gt;
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM&lt;br /&gt;
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)&lt;br /&gt;
* Dev docs&lt;br /&gt;
** Still some issues with the sample code and/or nib for the sample prefPane&lt;br /&gt;
** Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of &lt;br /&gt;
*** Calling private APIs&lt;br /&gt;
*** Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features&lt;br /&gt;
**: Add [[Development:Reviewing#Coding_for_latest-OS-version_features_or_using_private_APIs|here]]; we&amp;#039;re getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help&lt;br /&gt;
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update&lt;br /&gt;
** r queue still a bit high, but we&amp;#039;re still fixing bugs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specific bugs that need action==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 1.6b4pre/1.6pre ===&lt;br /&gt;
* nothing specific&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 1.5.6 ===&lt;br /&gt;
* nothing right now; there are a couple of bugs if we do one&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Other (if there&amp;#039;s time)===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 10.5 Visual UX&lt;br /&gt;
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Tab bar&lt;br /&gt;
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** We have a designer working on polishing&lt;br /&gt;
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Trunk&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to keep an eye on trunk regressions, determine if they&amp;#039;re Camino-only or partly/wholly Core, and consider requesting blocking1.9? for the latter set.&lt;br /&gt;
*** It&amp;#039;s pretty scary out there right now&lt;br /&gt;
** xpfe cleanup&lt;br /&gt;
*** see older Agendas if you&amp;#039;re interested &amp;lt;!--&lt;br /&gt;
*** {{bug|383085}} has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories&lt;br /&gt;
*** stefanh has a &amp;quot;build finishes, crashes on startup&amp;quot; MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;Standard8&amp;gt;stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: &amp;quot;stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that&amp;#039;ll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -&amp;gt; toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Queries==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Camino 1.6===&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino1.6&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 1.6]  (7) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} &amp;#039;&amp;#039;(almost all non-code)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6%3F  Blocking ?]  (1) {{greyText|[-5 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 1.6 list that need evaluation) &amp;lt;!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6%2B  Blocking +]  (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} &amp;lt;!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino1.6&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;priority=P1&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino1.6- Blocking -]  (4) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} &amp;lt;!--  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=---&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  (592) {{greyText|[&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;+9&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;amp;resolution=---&amp;amp;chfieldfrom=2008-03-19&amp;amp;chfieldto=2008-03-26&amp;amp;chfield=resolution&amp;amp;chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;12&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) {{greyText|[+9 since last week]}} (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;9&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; were 1.6-targeted, 2 were website, 1 was trunk-only) &amp;lt;!-- 1 was website, 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Queues==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=review&amp;amp;group=type Review]  (8) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 untargeted&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=superreview&amp;amp;group=type Superreview]  (3) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;amp;keywords=checkin-needed&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;amp;status_whiteboard=project&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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