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		<title>Sardisson: /* General Plans */ add dragging</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;General Plans: &lt;/span&gt; add dragging&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Sardisson: bleh</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;bleh&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wed 23 Apr 9am PDT (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==General Plans==&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 1.6&lt;br /&gt;
** Released last Thursday&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM16/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&amp;amp;searchby=stacksig&amp;amp;match=contains&amp;amp;searchfor=&amp;amp;vendor=MozillaOrg&amp;amp;product=Camino16&amp;amp;platform=MacOSX&amp;amp;buildid=2008040911&amp;amp;sdate=&amp;amp;stime=&amp;amp;edate=&amp;amp;etime=&amp;amp;sortby=stack&amp;amp;rlimit=500 all 1.6 crashes]—121 so far)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #1 is Flash&lt;br /&gt;
*** #2 is Core crash-on-quit&lt;br /&gt;
*** #3 is libobjc&lt;br /&gt;
**** at least 3 look like variations on {{bug|415362}} on 10.3.9 :( [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&amp;amp;type=iid&amp;amp;id=44220012 TB44220012x]&lt;br /&gt;
**** 4 look like variations on the old 1passwd crash [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&amp;amp;type=iid&amp;amp;id=44260242 TB44260242x]&lt;br /&gt;
*** #4 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&amp;amp;searchby=stacksig&amp;amp;match=contains&amp;amp;searchfor=KeychainItem&amp;amp;vendor=MozillaOrg&amp;amp;product=Camino16&amp;amp;platform=MacOSX&amp;amp;buildid=2008040911&amp;amp;sdate=&amp;amp;stime=&amp;amp;edate=&amp;amp;etime=&amp;amp;sortby=bbid KeychainItem]&lt;br /&gt;
** Load was pretty heavy on the server, esp. on software update; need to figure out a solution that will work for 1.6.1&lt;br /&gt;
** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Stuart&amp;#039;s started triaging the 2.0 list (3 criteria: regressions, make life better now, someone working on it)&lt;br /&gt;
** Stuart has started on the regressions&lt;br /&gt;
** Cocoa Widget &amp;quot;fixes&amp;quot; are making life pretty rough&lt;br /&gt;
** Anti-phishing update&lt;br /&gt;
** Tabsposé update&lt;br /&gt;
* Tinderboxen&lt;br /&gt;
** boxset stopped reporting to tinderbox five Thurs ago; Sam working on new mail server - {{bug|425138}}&lt;br /&gt;
** something&amp;#039;s wrong on cb-xserve01; reboot didn&amp;#039;t help - {{bug|421031}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** this happened again last week; we got it back to 421031 levels, but not pre-421031 levels&lt;br /&gt;
** no new news on binus or maya?&lt;br /&gt;
** ss has replacement minis for binus (to run 10.3) and mayaTrunk; mini-binus is in the colo but not accessible(?); &lt;br /&gt;
** mini-mayaTrunk on loan to Sunbird; something happened to it on last week?&lt;br /&gt;
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM&lt;br /&gt;
** we should think about setting up a testerbox to catch Core bugs breaking embedding APIs (mini-mayaTrunk alternate builds?)&lt;br /&gt;
* Dev docs&lt;br /&gt;
** Still some issues with the sample code and/or nib for the sample prefPane&lt;br /&gt;
*** Can someone fix cl&amp;#039;s nib for the prefPane docs? ({{bug|384800}} comment 18, 19, 26)&lt;br /&gt;
** Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of &lt;br /&gt;
*** Calling private APIs&lt;br /&gt;
*** Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features&lt;br /&gt;
**: Add [[Development:Reviewing#Coding_for_latest-OS-version_features_or_using_private_APIs|here]]; we&amp;#039;re getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help&lt;br /&gt;
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update&lt;br /&gt;
** r queue starting to get full again&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specific bugs that need action==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2.0a1pre ===&lt;br /&gt;
* See 2.0a1? list&lt;br /&gt;
* Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we&amp;#039;ll be stuck with&lt;br /&gt;
* Security UI cleanup&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 1.6.1 ===&lt;br /&gt;
* More toolbar icons coming&lt;br /&gt;
* OpenSearch POST fun&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Other (if there&amp;#039;s time)===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 10.5 Visual UX&lt;br /&gt;
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Tab bar&lt;br /&gt;
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** We have a designer working on polishing&lt;br /&gt;
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* xpfe cleanup&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--*** see older Agendas if you&amp;#039;re interested --&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
** {{bug|383085}} has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories&lt;br /&gt;
** stefanh has a &amp;quot;build finishes, crashes on startup&amp;quot; MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;Standard8&amp;gt;stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: &amp;quot;stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that&amp;#039;ll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -&amp;gt; toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code  :P&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Queries==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Camino 2.0a1===&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.0a1%3F  Blocking ?]  (3) &amp;lt;!-- {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.0a1%2B  Blocking +]  (1) &amp;lt;!-- {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}  subtract FIXED here--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.0a1- Blocking -]  (0) &amp;lt;!-- {{greyText|[unchanged]}}   --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Camino 2.0===&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino2.0&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0]  (46) &amp;lt;!-- {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?]  (2) &amp;lt;!--{{greyText|[unchanged]}}--&amp;gt; (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) &amp;lt;!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +]  (0) &amp;lt;!--{{greyText|[-2 since last week]}}  (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino2.0&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;priority=P1&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -]  (0) &amp;lt;!-- {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=---&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]  (617) {{greyText|[&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;+14&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;amp;resolution=---&amp;amp;chfieldfrom=2008-04-16&amp;amp;chfieldto=2008-04-23&amp;amp;chfield=resolution&amp;amp;chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;22&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) {{greyText|[+13 since last week]}} (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;12&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; were 2.0-targeted, 9 were website) &amp;lt;!-- 1 was website, 4 were trunk-only, including 2 serious regressions) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Queues==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=review&amp;amp;group=type Review]  (10) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} &amp;lt;!-- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 untargeted&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=superreview&amp;amp;group=type Superreview]  (1) {{greyText|[-4 since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;keywords_type=allwords&amp;amp;keywords=checkin-needed&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now checkin-needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;amp;status_whiteboard=project&amp;amp;chfieldto=Now project patch(es) needed] (0) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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