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<p><b>New page</b></p><div><pre>[11:56am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv.<br />
[11:57am] You changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-09-24:Agenda".<br />
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[12:02pm] ardissone: waiting on those other two<br />
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[12:10pm] ardissone: ok<br />
[12:10pm] ardissone: well<br />
[12:11pm] cl: i have less-than-reliable internets and i'm about to go for a run, but i'm sort of here.<br />
[12:11pm] ardissone: hopefully those two will return to their computers soon and will see the big modal "join me" dialogue <br />
[12:12pm] ardissone: the big news is of course we finally got 1.6.4 out yesterday<br />
[12:12pm] ardissone: and even better, the website is running fine<br />
[12:12pm] ardissone: knocks on wood<br />
[12:12pm] ardissone: props to isaac <br />
[12:13pm] ardissone: no crashes so far, which is always nice to see the morning after<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone: first post in our 1.6.4 thread on the forum: "Just joined the Mac world and downloaded this. So far so good and it looks great. Thanks....."<br />
[12:14pm] cl: good comments (!) on macupdate too<br />
[12:14pm] ardissone: oh, i forgot to look at the update sites<br />
[12:14pm] ardissone: i also forgot yesterday was tuesday, so<br />
[12:15pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x?<br />
[12:15pm] hendy_: 1.6.4 is a New Hot Pick on Macupdate<br />
[12:15pm] ardissone: we also added catalan to the ML, in case you missed that<br />
[12:15pm] ardissone: nice <br />
[12:17pm] ardissone: on to 2.0 land<br />
[12:17pm] cl is now known as cl|run.<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone: is looking for that freeze<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone: smorgan: do you want to comment in those two Core bugs?<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone: and you'll land the spellchecker one soon-ish perhaps?<br />
[12:18pm] smorgan: I pinged josh yesterday, and he said approvals are just going really slowly at the moment<br />
[12:18pm] smorgan: I can try to land spellcheck today maybe<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone: k<br />
[12:18pm] smorgan: If you have time at any point, feel free though<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone: ok<br />
[12:18pm] smorgan: We should fix the tabbing crash for a1, presumably<br />
[12:19pm] ardissone: yeah<br />
[12:19pm] ardissone: murph: have you been looking at that?<br />
[12:19pm] murph: ardissone: yeah, I can take care of that.<br />
[12:19pm] smorgan: and I'll poke pink about sr for Sparkle<br />
[12:20pm] smorgan: (and the tabspose menu)<br />
[12:20pm] ardissone: and tabsposé<br />
[12:20pm] smorgan: Can we call it frozen beyond those things?<br />
[12:20pm] smorgan: Or was there anything else pressing?<br />
[12:20pm] ardissone: i'd like to solve the AppleScript bug<br />
[12:20pm] ardissone: either back out the old patch or land the new one<br />
[12:21pm] smorgan: I'm going to test that on 10.5 tonight, then I can sr if it works<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone: ok<br />
[12:22pm] smorgan: Then we can freeze and bake for about a week maybe<br />
[12:23pm] smorgan: Maybe less, depending on how the timing of landings works out<br />
[12:24pm] ardissone: ok<br />
[12:24pm] smorgan: I'm all for getting it out soon, I just don't want to have to do a2 the next day <br />
[12:25pm] ardissone: right<br />
[12:25pm] ardissone: is nearly released-out at this point <br />
[12:26pm] ardissone: ok<br />
[12:26pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else that's desperate for a1?<br />
[12:27pm] ardissone: the good news about the keyboard loop is that it fixed a dozen bugs, some dating back 6 years<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone: the not-as-good news is that we've filed about a half-dozen new ones<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone: including the crasher<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: but it's forward progress <br />
[12:29pm] smorgan: But several are things that didn't work reliably before, so that's not bad<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: yeah<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: and a couple are just "oh, we need to hook foo up, too"<br />
[12:29pm] smorgan: When nothing worked, the edge cases weren't filed <br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: hehe<br />
[12:30pm] ardissone: tabsposé, stuart's got a patch to add it to the menu<br />
[12:30pm] ardissone: jeff was working on some hover code?<br />
[12:31pm] peeja: um, guys?<br />
[12:31pm] ardissone: and thinking about icons<br />
[12:31pm] ardissone: peeja: ?<br />
[12:31pm] peeja: oh, sorry wrong guys... <br />
[12:31pm] peeja: carry on<br />
[12:31pm] ardissone:<br />
[12:32pm] ardissone: tab dragging<br />
[12:32pm] ardissone: murph: any update on that, or did you switch back to the keyboard stuff?<br />
[12:33pm] murph: the keyboard follow ups did slow me down, but I have picked back up the dragging so far this week...<br />
[12:33pm] murph: I am going to fix that crasher right away though, so I'm switching back and forth<br />
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[12:34pm] jeff: yea I am trying to work on some hover stuff and fixing my tabspose bugs<br />
[12:34pm] jeff: having a highlight in the background like the dock stacks<br />
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[12:35pm] ardissone: all hail the release-master <br />
[12:35pm] murph: any idea as to what a cut-off date would be for the tab dragging patch to make it into the next release?<br />
[12:35pm] ardissone: i haven't thought that far ahead<br />
[12:36pm] smorgan: We're going to have to try harder to keep b1 fast, so... "soon" <br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: yeah<br />
[12:37pm] mento: i only have one agenda item for today<br />
[12:37pm] murph: ok! <br />
[12:37pm] mento: i'm a pilot<br />
[12:37pm] ardissone: though i expect we'll do a b2 for l10n freeze<br />
[12:37pm] ardissone: congrats!<br />
[12:37pm] mento: thanks<br />
[12:37pm] ardissone: the other pilot is out running atm <br />
[12:37pm] smorgan: Can you pilot us through breakpad integration? <br />
[12:37pm] ardissone:<br />
[12:37pm] mento: smorgan: perhaps...<br />
[12:38pm] mento: short on time these days<br />
[12:38pm] smorgan: pshhh<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone: it's like SearchCo has some big new project or something<br />
[12:38pm] mento: cat's out of the bag <br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: has anyone seen pink?<br />
[12:39pm] mento: yeah, he's gone til 1or so<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: we're at the point on the agenda for fullscreen discussions<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: crud<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone: hendy_: mind getting up in the middle of the night again next week, so we can have pink?<br />
[12:40pm] hendy_: i'm fine with that<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone: and just telling us now your general status?<br />
[12:41pm] hendy_: i've got it working quite well.<br />
[12:41pm] hendy_: just one mode, with a hidden pref to keep chrome<br />
[12:41pm] hendy_: got a bezel with back/fwd, tabspose and exit full screen<br />
[12:42pm] hendy_: need to change mouse tracking for it<br />
[12:42pm] hendy_: and make the whole thing a bit more bulletproof<br />
[12:42pm] hendy_: and look into gecko key event stuff, to see if i can get Esc to work<br />
[12:43pm] ardissone: as a reminder, the wiki page is http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/User:Hendy:FullScreen<br />
[12:43pm] hendy_: the bezel is from the Skim project, is BSD licensed<br />
[12:44pm] ardissone: (i'll try to remember next tuesday to remind everyone to read it before the meeting )<br />
[12:44pm] hendy_: it's all encapsulated in an h and an m<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: sounds good; i look forward to doing the about:license dance again <br />
[12:46pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else about 2.0 or a1?<br />
[12:46pm] smorgan: restrains himself<br />
[12:47pm] hendy_: I have the New Tab bug and UTF-8 decoding bug, both in sr, but they may not qualify<br />
[12:48pm] ardissone: i think it the srs want to sr other things, i'll try to land them, but i expect they'll just be sring "blockers"<br />
[12:49pm] smorgan: I'm not sure what my time will be like in the next few days; we'll see<br />
[12:49pm] ardissone: can we shoot for Friday for having sparkle, tabsposé menu, and the tabbing crash landed?<br />
[12:50pm] smorgan: Up to murph, probably<br />
[12:50pm] murph: ardissone: yes, I can have the crasher fixed by then<br />
[12:50pm] ardissone: ok, good<br />
[12:50pm] murph: I just might have it solved right now, actually <br />
[12:51pm] ardissone: we'll try to give it priority through the queues<br />
[12:51pm] ardissone: so let's aim to freeze sometime friday, monday at latest<br />
[12:52pm] ardissone: i'll get the relnotes ready this weekend, i hope<br />
[12:52pm] ardissone: then end of next week we'll spin the build, Captain Mento permitting<br />
[12:52pm] mento: roger<br />
[12:53pm] ardissone: OK<br />
[12:53pm] ardissone: cl|run: will you look at addressing the old review comments on CBSamplePane?<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone: anyone else have anything else?<br />
[12:54pm] hendy_: i have a couple of bugs<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone: go for it<br />
[12:54pm] hendy_: should i have a look at bug 228840 ?<br />
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[12:55pm] ardissone: thebot: bug 228840<br />
[12:55pm] thebot: ardissone: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228840 enh, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, [patch] Bookmarks toolbar - Middle-click should open bookmark in new tab<br />
[12:55pm] hendy_: as in, do what comment 50 suggests<br />
[12:55pm] smorgan: That would be great<br />
[12:55pm] ardissone:<br />
[12:55pm] hendy_: ok<br />
[12:56pm] ardissone: you will be a hero to millions of users<br />
[12:56pm] smorgan: I've been meaning to see if I could quickly clean up hwaara's version, but hadn't gotten to it<br />
[12:56pm] hendy_: and bug 175470<br />
[12:56pm] thebot: hendy_: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175470 enh, P3, Future, markus.magnuson@gmail.com, NEW, Display pop-up menu on window title bar showing parent directories (path)<br />
[12:56pm] ardissone: well, at least a couple thousand <br />
[12:56pm] hendy_: would i be able to work on this one?<br />
[12:56pm] ardissone: yeah, i don't think markus is going to pick it back up<br />
[12:57pm] ardissone: Wevah never got back to me, btw<br />
[12:57pm] hendy_: that's ok, i think i can hack a 10.4 version together<br />
[12:58pm] ardissone: worst-case, we can do it 10.5 only, but it'd be nice to match safari if we could do nicely<br />
[12:58pm] hendy_: ok, that's all i had<br />
[12:58pm] ardissone: :)<br />
[12:58pm] ardissone: heh<br />
[12:58pm] hendy_: pinks here, btw<br />
[12:59pm] ardissone: pink was sring instead of meeting :P<br />
[12:59pm] thebot: Mozilla-l10n: 'MacOSX 10.4 comm-central l10n thunderbird' has changed state from Burning to Success.<br />
[12:59pm] You kicked thebot from the chat room. (no useless news)<br />
[1:00pm] ardissone: ok, anything else?<br />
[1:01pm] ardissone: just a reminder to please try to keep the r-queue moving; we have a shortage of reviewers and an abundance of patches ;)<br />
[1:02pm] ardissone: so everyone have a good week, look forward to the first freeze, and keep on rolling! :)<br />
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