Sardisson: /* General Plans */ more-or-less complete

2008-10-22T04:55:07Z

General Plans: more-or-less complete

Sardisson: all but branch talkback

2008-10-22T04:18:40Z

all but branch talkback

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Wed 22 Oct 9am PDT (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0a1
** Released yesterday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 2 so far)
* Camino 1.6.4
** Released four weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM164/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008091513&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.4 crashes] — 1004; increasing ~300/wk)
*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, {{bug|448554}}, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448554#c1 bug 448554 comment 1]), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there






** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
* [[Releases:1.6.5:Links|Camino 1.6.5]]
** Gecko release set for 12 Nov, code freeze Fri (24 Oct)
** NSSpellchecker exceptions landed
** We have a few nominations we should land/consider
* Camino 2.0
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
*** Need to retriage 2.0 list now
*** Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b1 and add '''''l10n''''' to the whiteboard
*** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation
** Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
** Tabsposé update - jeff?
** Tab dragging - murph's first patch has arrived
** Fullscreen - hendy has been on vacation
** Icon work for 2.0 - need to coordinate through Sam; updates?
** breakpad -
** Gecko strings l10n -
* Tinderboxen
** boxset had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down
** cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again {{bug|458217}}
** cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
** cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
* Dev docs
** CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments

* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Little bug movement again this week (freeze masking some "finished" bugs); r and sr queues getting full again.

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 2.0b1pre ===
* See 2.0b1? list
* Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

=== 1.6.5 ===

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
** Folders (UNCO) - {{bug|436012}}

* cl's buglist
**{{bug|175748}} - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
**{{bug|318931}} - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on {{bug|438256}}?)
**{{bug|363664}} - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"

* xpfe cleanup

** {{bug|389140}} gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento
** {{bug|428333}} license.html; needs r=mento
** stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"<br>[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code :P

==Queries==

===Camino 2.0b1===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F Blocking ?] (8) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1- Blocking -] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 

===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (40) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] (7) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (638) {{greyText|['''+1''' since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-10-15&chfieldto=2008-10-22&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''7''') {{greyText|[+4 since last week]}} ( 1 was old fix, was relnotes, 1 was website) 

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (17) {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (2) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}

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 * Camino 1.6.4
 ** Released four weeks ago
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM164/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008091513&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.4 crashes] — 1004; increasing ~300/wk)
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM164/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008091513&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.4 crashes] — 1383; increasing ~300/wk)
 *** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, {{bug|448554}}, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448554#c1 bug 448554 comment 1]), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there
 <!--*** #1 is Flash

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