Status Meetings:2008-10-29:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* Other (if there's time) */ explain

2008-10-29T05:47:05Z

Other (if there's time): explain

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ extra x

2008-10-29T05:46:08Z

General Plans: extra x

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ 2.0a1 crashes

2008-10-29T04:45:22Z

General Plans: 2.0a1 crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes

2008-10-29T03:58:07Z

all but crashes

Clawson: add bug 409679

2008-10-28T15:43:10Z

add bug 409679

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{{bug|409679}} - Option-return in location bar doesn't work without scheme://

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	* {{bug\|409679}} - Option-return in location bar doesn't work without scheme://		* {{bug\|409679}} - Option-return in location bar doesn't work without scheme://
		+	** The bug seems to be in the save code; should we finish up this patch and file a follow-up?

	* 10.5 Visual UX		* 10.5 Visual UX

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 *** #2 is Flash
 *** #3 is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008101818|nsObjCExceptionLogAbort}} (1 is probably {{bug|458961}})
-*** Also, 3 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087x}}, {{TB|50604116x}})
+*** Also, 3 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|50702043}}, {{TB|50686087}}, {{TB|50604116}})
 * Camino 1.6.4
 ** Released four weeks ago

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 * Camino 2.0a1
 ** Released a week ago
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 2 so far)
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 30 so far)
 * Camino 1.6.4
 ** Released four weeks ago
 ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM164/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008091513&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.4 crashes] — 1383; increasing ~300/wk)
-*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, {{bug|448554}}, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448554#c1 bug 448554 comment 1]), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there
+*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, {{TBsig|16|2008091513|libSystem.B}} seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, {{bug|448554}}, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448554#c1 bug 448554 comment 1]), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there
 <!--*** #1 is Flash
 *** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week

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−	{{bug\|409679}} - Option-return in location bar doesn't work without scheme://	+	Wed 29 Oct 9am PDT (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg <!--time change next week -->
		+
		+	==General Plans==
		+	* Camino 2.0a1
		+	** Released a week ago
		+	** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM20a1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008101818&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0a1 crashes] — 2 so far)
		+	* Camino 1.6.4
		+	** Released four weeks ago
		+	** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM164/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008091513&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.4 crashes] — 1383; increasing ~300/wk)
		+	*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, but Flash looks like #1, libSystem.B seems to had a big uptick over the last week (RealPlayer, {{bug\|448554}}, [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448554#c1 bug 448554 comment 1]), usual suspects + Core xmlhttpreq also up there
		+	<!--*** #1 is Flash
		+	*** #2/5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008080311&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] - presumably a large degree are 1passwd in addition to plug-ins, although details remain illusive; bit of a spike this week
		+	*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit ({{bug\|349463}})
		+	*** #4 is Cocoa - more random bits of Camino and Gecko code; Address Book, plug-ins
		+	*** #6 is libObjC.A.dylib - four 1passwd crashes and mostly useless stacks elsewhere
		+	-->
		+	<!--
		+	*** No topcrash reports yet, but aside from the usual suspects, lots of reports of crashing on startup (1passwd, initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet, -[MainController checkForProblemAddOns]() ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48463338 TB48463338x]/[http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48528066 TB48528066x]), -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() {{bug\|448554}})
		+	-->
		+	<!--**** RealPlayer - {{bug\|441736}} (bug also some Flash and Silverlight)
		+	**** random bits of Camino code: 47958724 initMozillaPrefs, 48061310 refreshStyleSheet, 47710819
		+	**** A number of reports mention installing or upgrading 1passwd
		+	**** Some reports mention startup (initMozillaPrefs, refreshStyleSheet among others)-->
		+	<!--*** #4 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libobjc]-->
		+	<!--**** 46765023 -[KeychainService init]() on startup, 46195237; are these just corrupt keychains? But see also 46195236 (CoreFoundation+1passwd from same user)
		+	**** 46228188 should-have-been-fixed Privacy crash on 10.3.9 (one only)-->
		+	<!--*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=Camino&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid Camino]
		+	**** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=48319457 TB48319457x] +[NSWorkspace(CaminoDefaultBrowserAdditions) osVersionString]() - handful of these
		+	--><!--*** #5 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=CoreFoundation&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid CoreFoundation]
		+	**** 48001978 -[SiteIconCache readCacheFile]() at startup; this is fairly common
		+	**** Lots of crashes that contain the old tell-tale 1passwd signature
		+	**** Dozen or so CamiTools -->
		+	** Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
		+	** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
		+	** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
		+	* [[Releases:1.6.5:Links\|Camino 1.6.5]]
		+	** Gecko release set for 12 Nov, code freeze Fri (24 Oct)
		+	** NSSpellchecker exceptions landed
		+	** We have a few nominations we should land/consider
		+	* Camino 2.0
		+	** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
		+	*** Need to retriage 2.0 list now; smorgan's done some
		+	*** Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b1 and add '''''l10n''''' to the whiteboard
		+	*** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation
		+	** Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
		+	** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
		+	** Tabsposé update - needs more QA; collecting bugs we should fix
		+	** Tab dragging - r- on first patch
		+	** Fullscreen - hendy looking at other bugs
		+	** Icon work for 2.0 - need to coordinate through Sam; updates promised for this week
		+	** breakpad -
		+	** Gecko strings l10n -
		+	* Tinderboxen
		+	** boxset had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down
		+	** cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again {{bug\|458217}}
		+	** cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (<!--4 hr clobber, -->65 min dep)
		+	** cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (<!--4 hr clobber, -->45 min dep)
		+	** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
		+	* Dev docs
		+	** CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
		+	<!--** Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
		+	*** Calling private APIs
		+	*** Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
		+	**: Add [[Development:Reviewing#Coding_for_latest-OS-version_features_or_using_private_APIs\|here]]; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help-->
		+	* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
		+	** Some bug movement again this week; r queues still fairly full.
		+
		+	==Specific bugs that need action==
		+
		+	=== 2.0b1pre ===
		+	* See 2.0b1? list
		+	* Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
		+
		+	=== 1.6.5 ===
		+
		+	===Other (if there's time)===
		+
		+	* {{bug\|409679}} - Option-return in location bar doesn't work without scheme://
		+
		+	* 10.5 Visual UX
		+	** Bookmark bar - {{bug\|401340}}
		+	** Tab bar
		+	** Toolbar icons - {{bug\|384725}}
		+	*** We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
		+	** App icon lines - {{bug\|402967}}
		+	** Folders (UNCO) - {{bug\|436012}}
		+
		+	* cl's buglist
		+	**{{bug\|175748}} - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
		+	**{{bug\|318931}} - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on {{bug\|438256}}?)
		+	**{{bug\|363664}} - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"
		+
		+	* xpfe cleanup
		+	<!--*** see older Agendas if you're interested -->
		+	** {{bug\|389140}} gets us using the right theme files; needs r=mento
		+	** {{bug\|428333}} license.html; needs r=mento
		+	** stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP [http://hem.fyristorg.com/s_her/camino/camino-test.diff patch]<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts<br>[4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"<br>[4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone\|ish: feel free to play with the code :P
		+
		+	==Queries==
		+
		+	===Camino 2.0b1===
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F Blocking ?] (8) {{greyText\|[<!--+3 since last week-->unchanged]}} <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText\|[unchanged]}} <!-- --> <!-- subtract FIXED here-->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1- Blocking -] (1) {{greyText\|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
		+
		+	===Camino 2.0===
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (35) {{greyText\|[-5 since last week]}} <!-- -->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] (9) {{greyText\|[+2 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!-- (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText\|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText\|[unchanged]}} <!-- -->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (647) {{greyText\|['''+9''' since last week]}} <!-- '''first “CLOSEME” cleanup in a month'' -->
		+
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2008-10-22&chfieldto=2008-10-29&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''9''') {{greyText\|[+2 since last week]}} ('''3''' were 2.0-targeted; 1 was ad-blocking; 1 was website)
		+
		+	==Queues==
		+
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (12) {{greyText\|[-5 since last week]}} <!--'''2 untargeted''' -->
		+	* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (2) {{greyText\|[unchanged]}} <!-- (oldest now waiting for two weeks) (only 7 are 1.5 bugs) -->