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<p><b>New page</b></p><div><pre>[02:17am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv.<br />
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[02:17am] ardissone: suggests cl zzz <br />
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[12:02pm] cl: i'm sort-of here<br />
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[12:09pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone seen any pinkertons or mentovais lurking?<br />
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[12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, everyone please open http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2008-11-05:Agenda in your Camino 2.0a1 or newer<br />
[12:12pm] ardissone|foraging: so far i've not really heard anything<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: otoh, talkback numbers seem really low, even for an alpha<br />
[12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: which may mean most of our testers have moved on to 10.5 and Intel<br />
[12:13pm] cl: pink isn't on AIM either<br />
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: no, but he's here <br />
[12:14pm] cl: oh, heh.<br />
[12:14pm] cl: there he is.<br />
[12:14pm] cl: the 10.5/intel hypothesis seems reasonable<br />
[12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: we have a new topcrash this week, on startup<br />
[12:14pm] cl: I'm the only one on the team still regularly using PPC, right?<br />
[12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: on trunk, i believe so<br />
[12:15pm] cl: although I haven't seen any crashes in Camino trunk builds at all for like two months <br />
[12:15pm] cl: so that's good, for whatever it's worth <br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: the fact that the 10.4 Gecko crasher hasn't shown up more tells me we have very few 10.4 PPC users of the alpha<br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: (or reporting)<br />
[12:16pm] smorgan: Yes; it's certainly happening plenty<br />
[12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: mstange might have a fix for that, which would be nice<br />
[12:17pm] smorgan: I get plenty of personal reports of it<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: yet it was only +1 in talkback this week<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: which brings me to my next point<br />
[12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: we really need to do something about crash reporting<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: talkback servers are still broken, and they seem to be dying under the load more<br />
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: or Tuesday night is just bad for them <br />
[12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: i got through a1, but again it effectively died on me before I could start looking at 1.6.4<br />
[12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: despite what Sam says, I personally don't believe MoCo has any intention of actually fixing the servers <br />
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: anyway<br />
[12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else about a1?<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: on the 1.6.x front, i again have nothing new to report on the crash front <br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: for 1.6.5, Gecko has tagged but the release date may still slip<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: most of our bugs have landed<br />
[12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: waiting on pinkerton to sr CamiTools<br />
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: then we can land it and ad-blocking<br />
[12:22pm] pinkerton: sorry, i was going to sr things yesterday and got distracted.<br />
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: kittens? <br />
[12:22pm] pinkerton: work<br />
[12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: alas, far less fun<br />
[12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: if gecko slips, we'll be in good shape; otherwise, we'll trail them a bit on this release<br />
[12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: anything else on 1.6.x?<br />
[12:24pm] ss: Gecko won't slip<br />
[12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, we won't make the 12 then<br />
[12:26pm] ardissone|foraging: particularly as i'm going to be pretty busy again<br />
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[12:27pm] ardissone: on to general 2.0 stuff<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone: stuart did a bit to the list last week; I haven't had a chance to go through it myself<br />
[12:28pm] ardissone: we have no murph today<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: last i heard he had everything fixed except closing tabs during the drag<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: (thanks, Gecko)<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: so hopefully we'll see a new patch from him very soon<br />
[12:29pm] ardissone: jeff: Mr Tabsposé!<br />
[12:30pm] jeff: those are some nasty crashes involving tabspose<br />
[12:30pm] jeff: but yea, midterms are over. going to look at more bugs today<br />
[12:31pm] jeff: that is all. <br />
[12:32pm] ardissone: we'll need to evaluate the follow-up bugs there and see which ones we "need" for 2.0<br />
[12:33pm] ardissone: hendy: i see you've posted the patch for bookmark bar middle-click<br />
[12:33pm] hendy: yep<br />
[12:33pm] ardissone: we should find it a reviewer<br />
[12:33pm] hendy: that would be good<br />
[12:34pm] ardissone: smorgan: do you want/have time to take a crack at it again, or should we pester someone else?<br />
[12:34pm] smorgan: I'll take it<br />
[12:34pm] ardissone: sounds good <br />
[12:34pm] hendy: cool<br />
[12:35pm] ardissone: hendy: anything else from you?<br />
[12:35pm] hendy: i have a few other patches in the queues<br />
[12:35pm] hendy: will probably start work on 175470 and the content zoom issues<br />
[12:36pm] ardissone: k<br />
[12:36pm] hendy: i'd like to know if there's any update on the status of bug 371895<br />
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[12:36pm] ardissone: bug 371895<br />
[12:36pm] thebot: ardissone: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371895 enh, P3, ---, batwood.bugs@gmail.com, NEW, Implement a flashblock whitelist for Camino<br />
[12:37pm] ardissone: cl: anything from batwood?<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone: if not, it's been a good two weeks, so it's probably OK for you to pick it up<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone: notes cl said he was only partly here<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone: ss tells us he has no updates on our icon situation<br />
[12:38pm] ardissone: or something to that effect<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: we covered our lack of breakpad earlier<br />
[12:39pm] thebot: Firefox: 'Linux mozilla-central leak test build' has changed state from Success to Test Failed.<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: i manually converted all the .properties files last night<br />
[12:39pm] smorgan: w00t!<br />
[12:39pm] ardissone: (semi-manually)<br />
[12:39pm] thebot: Firefox: 'Linux mozilla-central moz2-linux-slave07 dep unit test' has changed state from Success to Test Failed.<br />
[12:40pm] You kicked thebot from the chat room. (shut up!)<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone: however, i can't get them to be used<br />
[12:40pm] cl: oh, yeah, batwood e-mailed me back<br />
[12:40pm] ardissone: what did he say?<br />
[12:41pm] cl: Thanks for the kind words, Chris. I definitely miss working on Camino. My job has really been pounding me, for about a year now. Frankly I'm not sure how much more I want to deal with this level of work-load.<br />
[12:41pm] cl: But enough about that! Yeah, I want to finish this bug up, I think it's fairly close, I just need to set aside a few hours. I'm on a flight tomorrow so that might be a good use of the time.<br />
[12:41pm] cl: Hope everything's good for you too and glad to hear that Camino is still progressing well.<br />
[12:41pm] cl: Bryan<br />
[12:41pm] ardissone: ok<br />
[12:41pm] cl: that was last thursday<br />
[12:41pm] ardissone: heh<br />
[12:41pm] cl: so if I don't see anything posted there in another week, say, I'll ping him again.<br />
[12:42pm] ardissone: sounds good<br />
[12:42pm] ardissone: we'll have to tighten down that time period if there's nothing as we get closer<br />
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[12:43pm] ardissone: mento: how are you looking towards the end of this week, spinning-wise?<br />
[12:43pm] mento: possible<br />
[12:43pm] ardissone:<br />
[12:44pm] ardissone: hopefully we can finish the last landings and notes in that timeframe<br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: if you ever find a breakpad rabbit in your magic hat, that would be incredible, too <br />
[12:45pm] ardissone: ok, back to those nasty Gecko strings<br />
[12:46pm] ardissone: i tried the js prompt and the necko status ones, and they weren't working<br />
[12:47pm] smorgan: we can talk about it in channel later<br />
[12:47pm] ardissone: yeah<br />
[12:47pm] ardissone: was just about to say that<br />
[12:48pm] ardissone: in case anyone wondered, our tinderbox continue to prove more and more unreliable :P<br />
[12:48pm] ardissone: er, anyone else have anything about 2.0/2.0b1?<br />
[12:49pm] ardissone: we need to start thinking about a date soon-ish<br />
[12:51pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on anything?<br />
[12:51pm] smorgan: We should get tab dragging and the core crash fix, then figure out a data<br />
[12:51pm] smorgan: date, even<br />
[12:51pm] ardissone: mhm<br />
[12:52pm] ardissone: hopefully markus's patch solves it and will get 1.9.0 approval sometime this century<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone: OK then<br />
[12:54pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week, and work on those patches and reviews!<br />
[12:55pm] ardissone: :)</pre></div>Sardisson