Status Meetings:2009-02-04:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashes

2009-02-04T06:49:21Z

General Plans: crashes

Sardisson: everything bug crashes?

2009-02-04T06:23:28Z

everything bug crashes?

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Wed 04 Feb 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0b1
** Released six weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2ba1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — 111 so far, were adding ≈25/week, now only 10)
*** #1  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
*** #2  is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks)
*** #3  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix, but we also pushed {{bug|471681}})
*** #3  Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
*** #3  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|Cocoa.12.0.0}}
*** #3  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|nsObjectFrame::PaintPlugin}} [new]
*** #7  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}

*** Also, 7 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}} [new])
** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
* Camino 1.6.6
** Released seven weeks ago
** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — ??? already)
*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 1094
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
* [[Releases:1.6.7:Links|Camino 1.6.7]]
** Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
** We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
** One major bug in search plugins on 10.3; awaiting sr - {{bug|469236}}
** 1Password-related crash affects 1.6.x and 2.0nx - {{bug|471681}}
* Camino 2.0
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
*** Need to retriage 2.0 list again soon
*** Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add '''''l10n''''' to the whiteboard
*** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - {{bug|458205}}
*** Picking up new Gecko bugs and issues with Flashblock {{bug|474022}} (checked in Tues); need to check other bugs, like {{bug|474153}}, to see if they're fixed now
**** need verification that {{bug|472196}} (another _NSAutoReleaseNoPool episode, 10.4-only?) and {{bug|471948}} (appshell crash-on-quit) are fixed in today's builds
**** {{bug|474406}} - CPU usage peaking at 100% on Lufthansa website (regression from 2007); bz has patch, will probably take ~3 wks before landing
**** {{bug|475102}} - Can't switch tabs with the keyboard on whitehouse.gov (regression from keyhell)
** Anti-phishing - landed last week; {{bug|476543}} Ts regression all over (10% on minus); [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=358299&hide_resolved=1 lots of follow-ups]
** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}}
** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
** Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
** Tab dragging - scroll dragging, 10.4 bugs, pref patch?
** Icon work for 2.0 - another new set of philippe’s zoom icons ({{bug|450542}}); Sam promised updates months ago
** breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]])
** UTF-8 - hendy working on bookmarks manager, then autocompletion typing
** Flashblock CM -
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
* Tinderboxen
** boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
*** had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
** cb-x1 starting to die again {{bug|458217}}

* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** r queue slowly improving

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 2.0b2pre ===
* See 2.0b2? list
* Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

=== 1.6.7 ===

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
** Folders (UNCO) - {{bug|436012}}

* cl's buglist
**{{bug|175748}} - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
**{{bug|318931}} - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on {{bug|438256}}?)
**{{bug|363664}} - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"

* xpfe cleanup
** see older Agendas if you're interested


==Queries==

===Camino 2.0b2===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b2%3F Blocking ?] (14) {{greyText|[+5 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b2%2B Blocking +] (3) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b2- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=l10n&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F&field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=camino2.0b1%2B&field0-0-2=flagtypes.name&type0-0-2=equals&value0-0-2=camino2.0%3F&field0-0-3=flagtypes.name&type0-0-3=equals&value0-0-3=camino2.0%2B&field0-0-4=target_milestone&type0-0-4=equals&value0-0-4=Camino2.0 l10n] (9) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}}

===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (27) {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] (13) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (3) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (687) {{greyText|['''-6''' since last week]}} '''need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup''' 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-01-28&chfieldto=2009-02-04&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''6''') {{greyText|[-5 since last week]}} ('''0''' were 2.0-targeted

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (10) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} '''1 untargeted''' 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (2) {{greyText|[+2 since last meeting]}}

@@ Line 4: / Line 4: @@
 * Camino 2.0b1
 ** Released six weeks ago
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2ba1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — 111 so far, were adding ≈25/week, now only 10)
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121820&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b1 crashes] — 128 so far, were adding ≈25/week, now only 15)
-*** #1 <!--(14)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
+*** #1 <!--(18)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
-*** #2 <!--(10)--> is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks)
+*** #2 <!--(11)--> is {{bug|471948}} (crash on quit in nsAppShell, seen a couple times in 2.0a1; first frame in various libs/fmwks)
-*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix, but we also pushed {{bug|471681}})
+*** #3 <!--(10)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
-*** #3 <!--(7)--> Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
+*** #4 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|nsObjectFrame::PaintPlugin}} [new]
-*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|Cocoa.12.0.0}}
+*** #5 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CHBrowserView%20contentViewer}} (1Password-related, 1P may have a fix, but we also pushed {{bug|471681}})
-*** #3 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|nsObjectFrame::PaintPlugin}} [new]
+*** #5 <!--(7)--> Core crash-on-quit ({{bug|349463}})
-*** #7 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
+*** #5 <!--(7)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|Cocoa.12.0.0}}
 <!--*** #8 (5) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|0xfffeff20}}
 *** #9 (4) is {{TBsig|Trunk|2008121820|IOKit.275.0.0}} (all #1)-->
-*** Also, 7 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}} [new])
+*** Also, 7 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}} {{TB|52761804}} [new] {{TB|52688239}} [new] [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [new] [AB])
 ** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
 * Camino 1.6.6
@@ Line 20: / Line 21: @@
 ** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
 ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
-*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 1094<!--
+*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 1261<!--
 *** #1 is Flash
 *** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}}