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		<title>Sardisson: log; bz+drivers++</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;log; bz+drivers++&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;[02:27am] You were promoted to operator by chanserv.&lt;br /&gt;
[02:28am] You changed the topic to &amp;quot;http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-02-04:Agenda&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:03pm] cl2 was promoted to operator by you.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:03pm] ardissone: rebooting the internet; brb&lt;br /&gt;
[12:05pm] hendy joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:05pm] murph_ joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:06pm] ilya joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:06pm] sauron joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:06pm] sauron was promoted to operator by chanserv.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] hendy was promoted to operator by you.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] murph_ was promoted to operator by you.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] ilya was promoted to operator by you.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] jeff joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:07pm] jeff was promoted to operator by chanserv.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:08pm] ardissone: waiting on our GOOGs&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] smorgan joined the chat room.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you.&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] ardissone: smorgan: any pink or mento expected?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] smorgan: dunno, sorry&lt;br /&gt;
[12:09pm] ardissone: k&lt;br /&gt;
[12:10pm] ardissone: we&amp;#039;ll get started in just a sec, then&lt;br /&gt;
[12:12pm] ardissone: ok&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] ardissone: everyone open your 2.0b1 or newer to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-02-04:Agenda&lt;br /&gt;
[12:13pm] ardissone: nothing terribly new and exciting on that front&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone: we have a couple of new swizzling-related crashes that seem to come from the Address Book&lt;br /&gt;
[12:14pm] ardissone: i&amp;#039;m not sure if talback is being bogus or if non-Gecko code is still getting swizzled&lt;br /&gt;
[12:15pm] ardissone: there&amp;#039;s also some indication that our problems with drawing buttons and such on 10.4 is not over&lt;br /&gt;
[12:16pm] ardissone: one firefox 3.0.6 starts accepting crashes, i&amp;#039;ll see if i see any there&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] ardissone: (the fix for the 10.4 bug just now made a shipping firefox)&lt;br /&gt;
[12:17pm] ardissone: anything else on b1?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:18pm] ardissone: on the 1.6.x front, murph_&amp;#039;s got a patch for the 10.3 opensearch bug waiting for sr&lt;br /&gt;
[12:18pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] ardissone: on the 2.0 front&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] ardissone: everyone please update your nightly today&lt;br /&gt;
[12:20pm] ardissone: last night was the freeze for 1.9.0.7, so everything under the sun landed&lt;br /&gt;
[12:21pm] ardissone: that includes the Flash-keeps-playing bug, the crash-on-quit-appshell bug, and&lt;br /&gt;
[12:21pm] ardissone: some hackery in the print GUI to make Firefox not have a bad menu state&lt;br /&gt;
[12:22pm] ardissone: generally, if there are any problems for us in any of the 1907 fixes, finding them now rather than later is better &lt;br /&gt;
[12:23pm] ardissone: in other Gecko news, bz has a fix for the Lufthansa bug&lt;br /&gt;
[12:23pm] ardissone: it&amp;#039;ll probably land March-ish&lt;br /&gt;
[12:24pm] ardissone: ok, on to our features&lt;br /&gt;
[12:24pm] ardissone: anti-phishing landed last week; yay murph_ !&lt;br /&gt;
[12:24pm] murph_:  !&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] murph_: two weeks ago, never would&amp;#039;ve thought I&amp;#039;d be dusting that off all of a sudden &lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] ardissone: on the not-so-bright side, there&amp;#039;s a definite Ts hit even on static&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] ardissone: 1.5% on cb-x1 and nearly 10% on minus&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] smorgan: Are the prefs on?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] smorgan: i.e., are they downloading stuff?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] ardissone: ?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:25pm] ardissone: no&lt;br /&gt;
[12:26pm] smorgan: darn&lt;br /&gt;
[12:26pm] ardissone: that&amp;#039;s just from the component and the 503 error&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] murph_: hmm if the 503 error is occurring though, that must mean updates are enabled?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] ardissone: well, i&amp;#039;m assuming there&amp;#039;s a 503 error &lt;br /&gt;
[12:27pm] ardissone: i&amp;#039;ve not seen any indication that it&amp;#039;s visible&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] murph_: ohh, yeah, without enabling debug logging in the JS code, it won&amp;#039;t actually log&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] ardissone: i can try making a local change to minus to see what happens if we send a valid id&lt;br /&gt;
[12:28pm] ardissone: and if we set safebrowsing to off, i suppose&lt;br /&gt;
[12:29pm] ardissone: but unless it&amp;#039;s the former, ultimately we have a Ts hit that&amp;#039;s very noticeable on PPC&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] ardissone: so that&amp;#039;s one of a dozen follow-ups now open on safebrowsing&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] ardissone: pretty much all of them need to be done for 2.0&lt;br /&gt;
[12:30pm] ardissone: 3-4 for b2&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] ardissone: so we&amp;#039;ve got some work to do&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] ardissone: this is murph&amp;#039;s 3rd major feature this release, btw, so three cheers for him!&lt;br /&gt;
[12:31pm] murph_: alright, well I&amp;#039;ll make it my goal to get them all in&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] murph_: thanks ardissone &lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] murph_: a little flashier than fixing the key view loop  !&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] ardissone: on the tabs front&lt;br /&gt;
[12:32pm] murph_: hehe, I should use the word flash &lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] ardissone: i think we need to give up on scroll-dragging unless someone fixes !clone&lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] ardissone: but the only major bug we&amp;#039;ve seen is that 10.4 one&lt;br /&gt;
[12:33pm] ardissone: which i think is waiting for sr&lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] ardissone: yeah, that&amp;#039;s the other thing in pink&amp;#039;s queue&lt;br /&gt;
[12:34pm] ardissone: we heard from jeff this weekend, mumbling something about crazies and patches&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] ardissone: jeff: any tabsposé news?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] jeff: I am trying to track down those threading bugs with NSAnimation&lt;br /&gt;
[12:35pm] ardissone: &lt;br /&gt;
[12:36pm] jeff: so I am trying to allocate some time to figure that out&lt;br /&gt;
[12:36pm] ardissone: k&lt;br /&gt;
[12:36pm] jeff: maybe I should not waste time writing plugins&lt;br /&gt;
[12:37pm] ardissone: is it a Flash-killer that doesn&amp;#039;t suck?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:38pm] jeff: haha&lt;br /&gt;
[12:38pm] jeff: lets stay in reality&lt;br /&gt;
[12:38pm] ardissone: is not sure if that was an oxymoron or not&lt;br /&gt;
[12:38pm] ardissone:&lt;br /&gt;
[12:38pm] ardissone: ok&lt;br /&gt;
[12:39pm] ardissone: smorgan: any breaking news on breakpad?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:39pm] smorgan: I started looking at the current state of the core reporter app, but not much beyond that I&amp;#039;m afraid&lt;br /&gt;
[12:39pm] smorgan: Hopefully this weekend&lt;br /&gt;
[12:40pm] ardissone: ok &lt;br /&gt;
[12:40pm] ardissone: hendy: UTF-8 and Flashblock CM updates?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:41pm] hendy: Flashblock CM getting closer all the time - might have a patch in a few days&lt;br /&gt;
[12:41pm] hendy: UTF-8 the same&lt;br /&gt;
[12:42pm] ardissone: ok&lt;br /&gt;
[12:42pm] ardissone: sounds good&lt;br /&gt;
[12:42pm] ardissone: ilya: post-growl holiday?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:42pm] ilya: am so behind on hwk...&lt;br /&gt;
[12:42pm] ilya: catching up &lt;br /&gt;
[12:43pm] ardissone:&lt;br /&gt;
[12:43pm] ilya: should hopefully have some free time next week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:43pm] ardissone: I sent cl&amp;#039;s download prefs patch back before checkin&lt;br /&gt;
[12:44pm] ardissone: it needs some more work&lt;br /&gt;
[12:44pm] ardissone: he&amp;#039;s also been poking his bookmarks/dock bugs again&lt;br /&gt;
[12:45pm] ardissone: oh, yes: philippe has a new set of icons&lt;br /&gt;
[12:45pm] ardissone: https://bug450542.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=359472&lt;br /&gt;
[12:45pm] ardissone: based on our wide-ranging commentary from last week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:46pm] ardissone: we liked F better last week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:46pm] ardissone: but I think the new C3 looks better this week :P&lt;br /&gt;
[12:46pm] ilya: likes F1&lt;br /&gt;
[12:47pm] smorgan: would ship either one&lt;br /&gt;
[12:48pm] smorgan: ardissone: brief tangent--bz&amp;#039;s fix landed in CVS this morning&lt;br /&gt;
[12:48pm] ardissone: holy cow&lt;br /&gt;
[12:48pm] ardissone: ss told me yesterday 3wks :P&lt;br /&gt;
[12:48pm] smorgan: bz is our benevolent god&lt;br /&gt;
[12:49pm] ardissone: :D&lt;br /&gt;
[12:49pm] ardissone: awesome&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50pm] ardissone: missed the nightly for us, but that&amp;#039;s great&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50pm] ardissone: er, on the icons&lt;br /&gt;
[12:50pm] ardissone: anyone have any strong objection to either?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:52pm] ardissone: ok, we&amp;#039;ll find pink and let him make the final call&lt;br /&gt;
[12:52pm] ilya left the chat room. (Quit: ilya)&lt;br /&gt;
[12:52pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:54pm] ardissone: our 2.0 list got a bit longer last week when we moved the phishing stuff back on&lt;br /&gt;
[12:55pm] ardissone: the r queue is getting shorter, though that may be a function of a lack of new patches going in ;)&lt;br /&gt;
[12:56pm] ardissone: all in all, we had a good week last week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:56pm] ardissone: and Gecko&amp;#039;s being good to us this week&lt;br /&gt;
[12:56pm] ardissone: so can&amp;#039;t be too picky ;)&lt;br /&gt;
[12:57pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else?&lt;br /&gt;
[12:58pm] ardissone: ok then&lt;br /&gt;
[12:58pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week, catch up on homework, fix bugs, and review patches ;)&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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