Status Meetings:2009-03-11:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: not, in fact, 18 Feb

2009-03-18T03:12:46Z

not, in fact, 18 Feb

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashes

2009-03-11T05:19:05Z

General Plans: crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes?

2009-03-11T05:02:57Z

all but crashes?

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Wed 18 Feb 9am PDT (16:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0b2
** Released a week and a half ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 14 so far)
*** #1  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
*** #2  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
*** #2  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SetStyleSheetReference}}
*** #3  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
*** #4  is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
*** Latest swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation] 
** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
** {{TB|53075806}} - crash in NSS when quitting
* Camino 1.6.6
** Released twelve weeks ago
** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — ??? already)
*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2086
** Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
** Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
* [[Releases:1.6.7:Links|Camino 1.6.7]]
** Tb-focused release coming mid-March 17-18; NSS upgrade last Fri
** We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet); do one last release after 2.0?
** We have a number of general crash bugs that we now have patches for/leads on fixing, so we'd like to take those on 1.6.x as well.
** About 5 bugs left in nomination; waiting on fixes in some; extra leaks?
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode09 Summer of Code 2009] ?
* Camino 2.0
** Rough scoping doc at [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.0]]
*** Need to retriage 2.0 list (and blocking? list) again soon
*** Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b3 and add '''''l10n''''' to the whiteboard
*** Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - {{bug|458205}}; smorgan shaking some trees
**** still waiting on verification that {{bug|471948}} (appshell crash-on-quit) was fixed by Steven's patch few weeks ago
**** Key handling order changed right after b2 to let Camino menus have first crack; we need to make sure there are no unexpected regressions
** Anti-phishing - {{bug|476543}} Ts regression all over (10% on minus); [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=358299&hide_resolved=1 lots of follow-ups]
** Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones; possibly a new crasher - {{bug|470159}}
** Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
** Tabsposé - NSControl, need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
** Tab dragging - scroll dragging, perf patch?
** breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
** UTF-8 - hendy working on bookmarks manager, then autocompletion typing
** Flashblock CM -
** Downloading -
** Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see [[User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings]])
** Icon work for 2.0 - Sam promised updates months ago
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews (needs reviewer)
* Tinderboxen
** boxset - missing from tinderbox yet again {{bug|479999}}
*** currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
*** had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
** cb-x1 starting to die again {{bug|458217}}
*** kernel panic Valentine's weekend[http://pastebin.mozilla.org/623521]

* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Fixes went up over the past week, queues and blockers/nominations went down! pink tweeted sr+s Sun and we promptly refilled his queue ;)

==Specific bugs that need action==

=== 2.0b3pre ===
* See 2.0b3? list
* Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

=== 1.6.7 ===

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** Bookmark bar - {{bug|401340}}
** Tab bar
** Toolbar icons - {{bug|384725}}
*** We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
** Folders (UNCO) - {{bug|436012}}

* xpfe cleanup
** see older Agendas if you're interested


==Queries==

===Camino 2.0b3===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b3%3F Blocking ?] (15) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b3%2B Blocking +] (2) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b3- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=Camino&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=l10n&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0b1%3F&field0-0-1=flagtypes.name&type0-0-1=equals&value0-0-1=camino2.0b1%2B&field0-0-2=flagtypes.name&type0-0-2=equals&value0-0-2=camino2.0%3F&field0-0-3=flagtypes.name&type0-0-3=equals&value0-0-3=camino2.0%2B&field0-0-4=target_milestone&type0-0-4=equals&value0-0-4=Camino2.0 l10n] (10) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}

===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0] (18) {{greyText|[-3 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F Blocking ?] (13) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B Blocking +] (3) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (714) {{greyText|['''+7''' since last week]}} '''need a “CLOSEME”/UNCO cleanup''' 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-03-04&chfieldto=2009-03-11&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''12''') {{greyText|[+11 since last week]}} ('''4''' were 2.0-targeted, 1 was website)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (9) {{greyText|[-5 since last week]}} '''1 untargeted''' 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] (3) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}

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 * Camino 2.0b2
 ** Released a week and a half ago
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 14 so far)
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM2b1/index.html Talkback] broken here, too ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=CaminoTrunk&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009022317&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 2.0b2 crashes] — 49 so far, ~35/wk)
-*** #1 <!--(3)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
+*** #1 <!--(8)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
-*** #2 <!--(2)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
+*** #2 <!--(6)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0}}
-*** #2 <!--(2)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SetStyleSheetReference}}
+*** #3 <!--(3)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SystemConfiguration.212.2.0}}
-*** #3 <!--(1)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|Flash%20Player}}
+*** Lots of pairs of random Gecko
-*** #4 <!--(1)--> is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
+<!--*** #4 !--(2)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|SetStyleSheetReference}}
-*** Latest swizzles: {{TB|53253501}} [SystemConfiguration], {{TB|53259627}} [nsObjcException], {{TB|53242747}} [nsFrame::Destroy], {{TB|53250277}} [CoreFoundation] <!--
+*** #5 !--(1)-- is {{TBsig|Trunk|2009022317|CoreFoundation.476.17.0}}
 *** Also, OS frameworks with swizzling ({{TB|51979682}}, {{TB|51970202}}, {{TB|52185198}}, {{TB|52293795}}, {{TB|52430931}}, {{TB|52529031}}, {{TB|52541896}}, {{TB|52761804}}, {{TB|52688239}} [AB] {{TB|52749126}} [AB], {{TB|52877218}}, {{TB|52856409}} [RolloverImageButton], {{TB|52846948}} [AB], {{TB|52899423}}, {{TB|53031023}} [AB] [new])-->
 ** {{bug|470159}} - crash/hang when adding (or not adding) a new bookmark; possibly key loop related?
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 ** Couple of reports of software update failing on install and leaving unusable binary
 ** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM166/index.html Talkback] is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008121219&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.6 crashes] — <!--854-->??? already<!--; that's on par with 1.6.x series, though 1.6.5 was much less crashy-->)
-*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2086<!--
+*** Hard to tell much without topcrashers, and "all crashes" times out at 2345<!--
 *** #1 is Flash
 *** #2 is {{TBsig|16|2008121219|libSystem.B}}
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 ** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM-->
 * Weekly Bugs and Queues update
-** Fixes went up over the past week, queues and blockers/nominations went down!  pink tweeted sr+s Sun and we promptly refilled his queue ;)
+** Fixes went up over the past week, queues and blockers/nominations went down!  pink tweeted sr+s Sun and we promptly refilled his queue ;-)
 ==Specific bugs that need action==