http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Status_Meetings%3A2009-06-24%3ALog Status Meetings:2009-06-24:Log - Revision history 2026-07-26T03:09:06Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.34.4 http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/index.php?title=Status_Meetings:2009-06-24:Log&diff=10097&oldid=prev Sardisson: log 2009-06-24T17:06:23Z <p>log</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&lt;pre&gt;[12:09pm] You were promoted to operator by chanserv.<br /> [12:09pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging.<br /> [12:09pm] cl: ah, there he is <br /> [12:09pm] cl was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:09pm] You changed the topic to &quot;http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-06-24:Agenda&quot;.<br /> [12:12pm] dan was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:12pm] hendy was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:12pm] murph was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:12pm] kreeger joined the chat room.<br /> [12:12pm] kreeger was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, everyone have your 2.0b3 or newer open to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-06-24:Agenda ?<br /> [12:13pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: we expecting pink, or is he still wresting with that throbber <br /> [12:14pm] pinkerton joined the chat room.<br /> [12:14pm] pinkerton was promoted to operator by chanserv.<br /> [12:14pm] pinkerton: sorry, swamped today<br /> [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: hehe<br /> [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: ok<br /> [12:14pm] ardissone|foraging: we heard about that throbber <br /> [12:14pm] pinkerton:<br /> [12:15pm] ardissone|foraging:<br /> [12:15pm] smorgan: Pff. What kind of lame-ass browser can&#039;t put throbbers on its tabs?<br /> [12:15pm] smorgan: Oh, wait<br /> [12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: every one that cares about performance?<br /> [12:15pm] ardissone|foraging: anywyay<br /> [12:15pm] pinkerton: but safari is the fastest browser in the known and unknown universe!<br /> [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: hyatt must have used a dirty trick <br /> [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: so, 2.0b3 is three weeks old now<br /> [12:16pm] ardissone|foraging: last week was apparently slightly less crashy for it<br /> [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: generic Flash crashes account for 22% of the (2-weeks) crashes<br /> [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging:<br /> [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: that bizarre NSApplication sendEvent: crash is still up there<br /> [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: then flash+exposé<br /> [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: then some objc exception in the appshell<br /> [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: then the swizzling bug that should be fixed in nightlies<br /> [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: and the long tail got much, much longer<br /> [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on b3?<br /> [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: we released 1.6.8 on Monday and added Simp. Chinese for the first time since 0.8.5(!)<br /> [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: next up in new languages is probably going to be Slovenian<br /> [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: i suspect Jan might have a translation done by the time we do 1.6.9 if the Gecko release gap is as long as it was this time<br /> [12:22pm] kreeger left the chat room. (Quit: kreeger)<br /> [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: crashes so far were uninteresting, other than Flash is a full 1/3 of them (no big surprise )<br /> [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x?<br /> [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: ok<br /> [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: dan: SoC updates from your neck of the woods?<br /> [12:25pm] dan: Not really. Everything&#039;s looking good<br /> [12:25pm] ardissone|foraging: first patch is out for sr, right?<br /> [12:26pm] dan: yes, bug 496495 I think<br /> [12:26pm] dan: autocomplete from bookmarks looks good other than if you happen to have any sites that have been redirected<br /> [12:27pm] dan:<br /> [12:27pm] ardissone|foraging: that&#039;s a lot of the web these days <br /> [12:27pm] dan: yes, and as far as I can tell there&#039;s no way to know if a certain site is a redirect?<br /> [12:28pm] dan: like mail.google.com from gmail.com<br /> [12:28pm] cl: lol<br /> [12:28pm] cl: i TOLD you<br /> [12:28pm] dan: I&#039;m working on a plan though<br /> [12:28pm] ardissone|foraging:<br /> [12:28pm] cl: (dan missed the conversation we had in #camino`sex about this last night)<br /> [12:29pm] dan: oh <br /> [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: so did everyone else save hendy <br /> [12:29pm] dan: This will work out<br /> [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: anywway<br /> [12:29pm] ardissone|foraging: good <br /> [12:29pm] cl: dan: i&#039;m curious to know what your plan is, because that might be another way to solve bug 311409<br /> [12:30pm] dan: I&#039;ll let you know when it works<br /> [12:30pm] ardissone|foraging: ok, sounds good <br /> [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: moving on, then?<br /> [12:31pm] ardissone|foraging: 2.0<br /> [12:32pm] ardissone|foraging: murph: you have some updated patches in for safebrowsing and CJK nightmares?<br /> [12:32pm] murph: yep, just refreshed the CJK patch again today, from yesterday&#039;s update, and the safebrowsing bar is in the sr queue<br /> [12:33pm] ardissone|foraging:<br /> [12:35pm] You left the chat by being disconnected from the server.<br /> [12:35pm] You rejoined the room.<br /> [12:35pm] You were promoted to operator by chanserv.<br /> [12:36pm] ardissone: internet<br /> [12:36pm] ardissone: it looks like the CJK bug is getting closer, which is good <br /> [12:36pm] ardissone: smorgan: anything more on josh&#039;s patch or other stuff from you?<br /> [12:37pm] smorgan: No, I haven&#039;t had time to look at that again yet<br /> [12:37pm] ardissone: k<br /> [12:37pm] ardissone: hendy: utf-8 or zoom?<br /> [12:38pm] hendy: utf-8 patch is awaiting r<br /> [12:38pm] hendy: i have a working impl of &#039;text zoom only&#039;, just need to put a patch together<br /> [12:39pm] hendy: and find a reviewer<br /> [12:39pm] hendy: then it&#039;s on to zoom increments<br /> [12:39pm] ardissone:<br /> [12:40pm] ardissone: cl: anything besides aviation?<br /> [12:40pm] cl: not really<br /> [12:40pm] cl: i haven&#039;t even been home-home in like two weeks<br /> [12:40pm] ardissone:<br /> [12:41pm] ardissone: fun-fun<br /> [12:41pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0?<br /> [12:42pm] ardissone: (anyone seen jeff?)<br /> [12:43pm] ardissone: ok<br /> [12:44pm] ardissone: now that releasemania is over, hope to branch this week<br /> [12:45pm] ardissone: anyone else have anything else?<br /> [12:45pm] cl: if not, can we look at a few of those UNCOs? <br /> [12:46pm] thebot joined the chat room.<br /> [12:47pm] ardissone: isn&#039;t bug 405722 a dupe?<br /> [12:47pm] thebot: ardissone: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405722 enh, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, UNCO, Consider supporting some subset of Firefox&#039;s Private Data prefs<br /> [12:47pm] cl: of?<br /> [12:47pm] ardissone: the one asking us to be more like safari<br /> [12:48pm] cl: it&#039;s not really the same thing as Private Browsing<br /> [12:48pm] ardissone: bug 405723<br /> [12:48pm] thebot: ardissone: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=405723 enh, --, ---, nobody@mozilla.org, NEW, Consider expanding Reset Camino to mimic Safari&#039;s new behaviour<br /> [12:48pm] thebot: Mozilla-l10n: &#039;SeaMonkey comm-1.9.1 macosx l10n&#039; has changed state from Success to Burning.<br /> [12:48pm] cl: oh, that one<br /> [12:49pm] ardissone: i think that&#039;s why it&#039;s never been confirmed<br /> [12:49pm] ardissone: we don&#039;t need 2 UIs to do essentially the same thing<br /> [12:50pm] ardissone: 405723 + private browsing sounds like a better solution<br /> [12:50pm] cl: the big thing is that we get a lot of people who want the ability to dump cookies/cache/history on quit, automatically, but allow them during the session<br /> [12:50pm] thebot: SeaMonkey-Ports: &#039;WINNT 5.2 comm-1.9.1 unit test&#039; has changed state from Success to Burning.<br /> [12:50pm] thebot: SeaMonkey-Ports: &#039;Linux comm-1.9.1 unit test&#039; has changed state from Success to Burning.<br /> [12:50pm] cl: what is the best way to solve that problem for those people?<br /> [12:51pm] You kicked thebot from the chat room. (shut up)<br /> [12:51pm] pinkerton: ha<br /> [12:51pm] ardissone: reset camino on quit, with those boxes ticked<br /> [12:52pm] cl: *shrug* sure, I&#039;m OK with that.<br /> [12:52pm] ardissone: i think those people are a significant minority, anyway<br /> [12:52pm] cl: but it needs to be available automatically<br /> [12:52pm] ardissone: s/significantly small/<br /> [12:52pm] cl: or at least, automatically pop up a dialog, like Firefox, asking you if you want to do it<br /> [12:52pm] ardissone: ?<br /> [12:53pm] cl: because the whole &quot;I have to remember to do this every time&quot; thing is why they&#039;re complaining in the first place<br /> [12:54pm] ardissone: write an AppleScript?<br /> [12:54pm] pinkerton: heh<br /> [12:54pm] pinkerton: automator!<br /> [12:55pm] ardissone: wonders if pink has a secret patch for automator support? :P<br /> [12:55pm] cl: yeah, uh, in theory, couldn&#039;t that be done *now*? :P<br /> [12:55pm] cl: using Folder Actions etc.<br /> [12:56pm] ardissone: sure; all the more argument for not adding excess UI to Camino to facilitate the wants of the very few ;)<br /> [12:57pm] cl: it wasn&#039;t so few back when I filed that bug.<br /> [12:57pm] cl: it was more like one or two feedbacks a week<br /> [12:57pm] cl: maybe five percent of feedback was asking specifically for that sort of feature.<br /> [12:57pm] smorgan: &quot;that sort&quot; = some kind of local privacy<br /> [12:57pm] ardissone: smorgan, ss: how often do people whine about it now?<br /> [12:57pm] pinkerton: perhaps they all just got fed up and went back to safari?<br /> [12:58pm] smorgan: Not &quot;I need the exact UI that Firefox provides&quot;<br /> [12:58pm] pinkerton: which is the pitfall of using &quot;nobody complains anymore&quot; as a defense<br /> [12:58pm] smorgan: (even if some of them phrased the request as wanting the Firefox UI)<br /> [12:59pm] ardissone: any objections to WONTFIXing the Firefox UI, then?<br /> [1:00pm] smorgan: I think the enhanced reset is enough<br /> [1:01pm] ardissone: and on that note...it&#039;s after 1:00 ;)<br /> [1:02pm] ardissone: we fixed all of 2 bugs this past week and they queues appeared not to move (things got r- and came back again, mostly)<br /> [1:02pm] ardissone: so we need to try to pick up some steam again <br /> [1:03pm] ardissone: so everyone have a good week and work on those 2.0 bugs and reviews :)<br /> [1:04pm] hendy left the chat room.<br /> [1:04pm] pinkerton: l8r&lt;/pre&gt;</div> Sardisson