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<p>log</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>&lt;pre&gt;[03:26am] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ.<br /> [03:26am] You changed the topic to &quot;http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-09-16:Agenda&quot;.<br /> [11:01am] ss left the chat room. (Ping timeout)<br /> [11:05am] ss joined the chat room.<br /> [11:05am] ss was promoted to operator by ChanServ.<br /> [12:01pm] murph joined the chat room.<br /> [12:01pm] smorgan joined the chat room.<br /> [12:04pm] You left the chat by being disconnected from the server.<br /> [12:06pm] You rejoined the room.<br /> [12:06pm] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ.<br /> [12:06pm] murph was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:06pm] smorgan was promoted to operator by you.<br /> [12:06pm] You are now known as ardissone|foraging.<br /> [12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: well<br /> [12:11pm] ardissone|foraging: smorgan: are we expecting pink?<br /> [12:12pm] smorgan: checking...<br /> [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: um?<br /> [12:17pm] smorgan: no pink<br /> [12:17pm] ardissone|foraging: ok<br /> [12:18pm] ardissone|foraging: everyone (all 2 of you ) please open your 2.0b4rc1 or newer to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2009-09-16:Agenda<br /> [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: there&#039;s nothing particularly new and exciting about the b3 crashes, other than the JEP now accounts for almost half of them (and growing)<br /> [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging:<br /> [12:19pm] ardissone|foraging: looking forward to not seeing that <br /> [12:19pm] smorgan: If only we had a fix ready to ship!<br /> [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: which segues right into b4 <br /> [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: we froze monday night<br /> [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: we built last night<br /> [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: looking to release end-of-week<br /> [12:20pm] ardissone|foraging: i have to do that bit-of-web stuff that the milestone takes, and stuart has to do the signing<br /> [12:21pm] ardissone|foraging: so far no crashes reported<br /> [12:22pm] ardissone|foraging: anyone else have anything on b3/b4?<br /> [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: ok then<br /> [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: 1.6.9<br /> [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: Flash still the topcrasher there <br /> [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: #2 this week is disturbing, though<br /> [12:23pm] ardissone|foraging: its in ATS on 10.4.11<br /> [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: a variety of codepaths leading in (plugins, layout, etc)<br /> [12:24pm] ardissone|foraging: i wonder if the recent security update might have caused it?<br /> [12:25pm] smorgan: tries to load the reports<br /> [12:25pm] smorgan: I&#039;m sure going to miss this server <br /> [12:25pm] You are now known as ardissone.<br /> [12:25pm] ardissone: yeah, for sure <br /> [12:26pm] ardissone: just think, though: at one point it was faster and more useable than socorro!<br /> [12:28pm] ardissone: also on 1.6.9/10.6, we&#039;ve got a guy in the forum who looks like he&#039;s got nativescollbar crashes: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=7527685#p7527685<br /> [12:28pm] smorgan: Weird<br /> [12:29pm] ardissone: which one? <br /> [12:29pm] smorgan: Just Camino, not other apps?<br /> [12:29pm] ardissone: i assume so<br /> [12:30pm] ardissone: no haxies, it appears<br /> [12:31pm] smorgan: I&#039;m not really sure how to debug that, since it doesn&#039;t involve our code as far as I can tell<br /> [12:31pm] smorgan: And we don&#039;t do anything wacky with scrollbars<br /> [12:31pm] ardissone: yeah<br /> [12:31pm] ardissone: objc[188]: FREED(id): message setDoubleValue: sent to freed object=0x164b0ca0<br /> [12:31pm] ardissone: hrm, both crashes he posted are still 10.6, too; at very least, he should try 10.6.1<br /> [12:32pm] ardissone: i&#039;ll poke him further<br /> [12:32pm] smorgan: I wonder if it&#039;s a specific page<br /> [12:32pm] smorgan: Scrollbar in the page getting ripped out at an inopportune moment<br /> [12:32pm] smorgan: Maybe also just try b4<br /> [12:32pm] ardissone: dunno; he just mentioned &quot;crashing more than usual&quot;<br /> [12:33pm] ardissone: yeah<br /> [12:33pm] ardissone: have you found anything interesting in the ATS reports? <br /> [12:33pm] smorgan: Oh hey, now it loads<br /> [12:33pm] ardissone: haha<br /> [12:35pm] smorgan: I wonder if this is the same person<br /> [12:35pm] smorgan: Lots of low since-last-crash numbers<br /> [12:35pm] ardissone: mm<br /> [12:35pm] ardissone: was awful crashy for him/her then <br /> [12:36pm] smorgan: Bad font, potentially<br /> [12:37pm] ardissone: ok then<br /> [12:37pm] ardissone: 1.6.10<br /> [12:38pm] ardissone: we&#039;re just waiting on kill-java, as long as nothing else surfaces<br /> [12:38pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 1.6.x?<br /> [12:40pm] ardissone: ok, backstretch-to-2.0 roundup<br /> [12:40pm] ardissone: murph: have you done any poking on forcing the tooltip to display on 10.5 and up?<br /> [12:41pm] murph: Unfortunately I haven&#039;t been able to experiment a great deal with that yet, but I will see if I can determine a way<br /> [12:42pm] ardissone: it&#039;s a lower priority than, say, guessing good zoom increments or helping finish up tabsposé<br /> [12:42pm] murph: ok, I will put those higher on the list for sure then<br /> [12:43pm] ardissone: we might have to send you up to Boston to pry that NSControl patch off of jeff&#039;s HD <br /> [12:44pm] murph: hehe well I will be up there staying with him next month for an iPhone conference <br /> [12:44pm] ardissone: that&#039;s probably too late <br /> [12:44pm] ardissone: no one&#039;s mentioned anything in the forum about the new zoom increment so far, which i find odd<br /> [12:46pm] ardissone: smorgan: what&#039;s the latest on the key blackhole stuff?<br /> [12:47pm] smorgan: I suggested a couple small changes to josh, but haven&#039;t heard anything since. I&#039;ll try to get a patch made this weekend if josh doesn&#039;t<br /> [12:47pm] smorgan: Then I&#039;ll rework our delete and esc code<br /> [12:47pm] ardissone: you have the Camino changes written?<br /> [12:47pm] smorgan: Not yet<br /> [12:47pm] ardissone: ah, ok<br /> [12:49pm] ardissone: getting breakpad to offer to resend a report that failed (e.g., on next launch, like Talkback) would have to be done upstream, no?<br /> [12:50pm] smorgan: Probably, yeah<br /> [12:50pm] ardissone: k<br /> [12:51pm] ardissone: i think that and console scraping are the only things on the breakpad list it would be nice to have<br /> [12:51pm] smorgan: It would also need more UI/stings<br /> [12:51pm] ardissone: but neither of them are critical<br /> [12:51pm] smorgan: strings, even<br /> [12:51pm] ardissone: mmm<br /> [12:51pm] ardissone: yes, indeed<br /> [12:52pm] ardissone: sparkle: will 1.5 ever go final? if so, will we take it, or stick with our current rev?<br /> [12:52pm] ardissone: (strings permitting)<br /> [12:52pm] smorgan: Dunno if it&#039;ll go final, but I&#039;ll continue to watch and evaluate changes<br /> [12:52pm] ardissone: k<br /> [12:53pm] ardissone: fun fonts tab done; no more advanced sheet!<br /> [12:53pm] smorgan: We could cherry-pick if necessary, but I&#039;m hoping we won&#039;t<br /> [12:53pm] ardissone: k<br /> [12:53pm] ardissone: thanks to murph and hendy and smorgan for all the code that enabled us to get rid of it!<br /> [12:54pm] ardissone: i already mentioned we checked in a small change to zoom to get feedback on it from b4<br /> [12:54pm] ardissone: Gecko strings: heroic debugging by smorgan got us NSS strings!<br /> [12:55pm] ardissone: which is good, because we were using two stringbundles in our own Cocoa UI code <br /> [12:55pm] ardissone: so that&#039;s all done for 2.0<br /> [12:55pm] ardissone: we&#039;re missing two minor properties files, and of course DTDs, but 2.0 will be 100x better for l10n than anything ever before <br /> [12:56pm] ardissone: hopefully we&#039;ll see some feedback (or maybe lack of feedback will continue) from 10.4 folks on the new tab bar<br /> [12:56pm] ardissone: hoping it looks OK<br /> [12:57pm] ardissone: On the 2.0 front, we have 10 bugs currently targeted at 2.0, 2 blocking; and also 10 bugs nominated<br /> [12:57pm] ardissone: that&#039;s where we need to focus our efforts, obviously ;)<br /> [12:58pm] ardissone: whittle those lists down with fixes and minuses where appropriate<br /> [12:58pm] ardissone: that&#039;s not counting Esc and delete, though<br /> [12:58pm] kreeger joined the chat room.<br /> [12:59pm] ardissone: since we&#039;ve been pessimistic on them for 6mos now and don&#039;t want to raise a riot of bugpeople :P<br /> [12:59pm] ardissone: anyone have anything else on 2.0?<br /> [1:01pm] ardissone: how about on anything else?<br /> [1:02pm] ardissone: ok then<br /> [1:03pm] ardissone: everyone have a good week and work on those 2.0 bugs/patches :D&lt;/pre&gt;</div>

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