Status Meetings:2009-12-16:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ i hate crashes

2009-12-16T05:59:27Z

General Plans: i hate crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes?

2009-12-16T04:56:09Z

all but crashes?

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Wed 16 December 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Are we meeting next week (23 Dec)?
* Camino 2.0.1
** Released two weeks ago Friday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.1 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 970  - '''NEW''' [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.1 topcrashers by URL]
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} (11%)
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} (GoogleDesktop, Tabsposé, Printing) (5%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|nsDocShell::LoadHistoryEntry}}
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story)

*** Crashes we expected to be fixed (MacOSFontEntry) have indeed vanished
*** Mostly lots of misc signatures
* Website
** Please file any bugs on the new design; some changes still to be implemented
* Camino 1.6.10
** Released eleven weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs ss to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''2078''', ~ +40 last week [even the PPC users are on 2.0]

* [[Releases:1.6.11:Links|Camino 1.6.11]]
** Every current nomination landed except cert text color
* [[Releases:2.0.2:Links|Camino 2.0.2]]
** netError - one more crazy possibility, but not likely
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** !seen dan
** Start thinking about other features
** CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews
** Downloads prefPane icon and other icon tweaks
** Fixing minor bugs here and there
** Gecko 1.9.1?
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04
*** ~8min Depend builds, 29min Clobbers, currently running 2.0 and 2.1, Ts, uploading “hourlies”
** boxset
*** offline (again) due to power outage at Sam's
*** missing from tinderbox yet again {{bug|479999}}
*** were tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade {{bug|465212}} - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
** cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml
*** would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)
** What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Very slow since 2.0 freeze

==Specific bugs that need action==

* None

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (10) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}  ''doesn't have any of the 2.1 planning bugs yet''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (710) {{greyText|['''-10''' since last week]}} '''some CLOSEMEs closed; need to keep on top of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2009-12-09&chfieldto=2009-12-16&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''0''') {{greyText|[-3 since last week]}} 

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (5) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''1''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}}

@@ Line 5: / Line 5: @@
 * Camino 2.0.1
 ** Released two weeks ago Friday
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.1 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 970 <!--(more than 2x the highs of Talkback, but now showing top 300 sigs, too)--> - '''NEW''' [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.1 topcrashers by URL]
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.1 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 2540, ~ +1500 <!--(more than 2x the highs of Talkback, but now showing top 300 sigs, too)--> - '''NEW''' [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.1 topcrashers by URL]
-*** #1 <!--238--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
+*** #1 <!--611--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player}} (24%)
-*** #2 <!--111--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} (11%)
+*** #2 <!--209--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} (8%)
-*** #3 <!--52--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} (GoogleDesktop, Tabsposé, Printing) (5%)
+*** #3 <!--116--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (5%)
-*** #4 <!--19--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop)
+*** #4 <!--50--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #5 <!--17--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|nsDocShell::LoadHistoryEntry}}
+*** #5 <!--46--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
-*** #5 <!--17--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story)
+*** #5 <!--40--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
 <!--
 *** #4 <!- -71- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|gfxPlatform::GetCMSOutputProfile()}} - {{bug|529993}} (comments mentioning upgrading from 1.6.10 and "first launch"; surely CMS pref not set?) (2%)
@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}} -->
 *** Mostly lots of misc signatures
 * Website
 ** Please file any bugs on the new design; some changes still to be implemented
 * Camino 1.6.10
 ** Released eleven weeks ago Tuesday
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs ss to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''2078''', ~ +40 last week<!-- --> [even the PPC users are on 2.0]
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs ss to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''2095''', ~ +17 last week<!-- --> [even the PPC users are on 2.0]
 <!--*** #1 Flash is 25% of all 1.6.10 crashes so far (down from 1.6.9's 28% peak)
 *** #2 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|libobjc}} - mostly plug-ins