Status Meetings:2010-01-27:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashes, crashes, go away

2010-01-27T07:15:05Z

General Plans: crashes, crashes, go away

Sardisson: everything but 2.0.1 crashes

2010-01-27T06:19:00Z

everything but 2.0.1 crashes

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Wed 27 January 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Meeting moving starting next week (3 Feb) to 4 PM EST aka 1 PM Pacific aka [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2&day=3&year=2010&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=25 whatever time it is where you are]
* Camino 2.0.1
** Released eight weeks ago Friday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.1 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3537, ~ +330 over two weeks  - '''NEW''' [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.1 topcrashers by URL]
*** About half the last increase, but the total 2wk number is still rising
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player}} (32%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (6%)
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (3%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError; unknown) (2%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%)

*** Mostly lots of misc signatures
* Website
** Please file any bugs on the new design; some changes still to be implemented
* Camino 1.6.10
** Released seventeen weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs ss to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''1499''', ~ -167 last week
*** Flash Player (not counting any related CF signatures, etc.) 42% of 1.6.11 crashes last week

* [[Releases:1.6.11:Links|Camino 1.6.11]]
** Every current fixed nomination landed (cert text color and ad-blocking last night)
** Some movement on the Gecko front, but still no date
* [[Releases:2.0.2:Links|Camino 2.0.2]]
** Gecko release 16 Feb
** Waiting on a new patch from cl for {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
** Can we get someone to make the docshell change bz suggests? - {{bug|541743}}
** netError - one more crazy possibility, but not likely
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** Dan has patches for the two most visible autocomplete bugs and some others
** Regression in sheet's autocomplete ({{bug|541296}}) - what about Safari model?
** Downloads prefPane icon and other icon tweaks
** Fixing minor bugs here and there
** Gecko 1.9.1?

* AppZapper
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Very slow since 2.0 freeze

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (17) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (6) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (700) {{greyText|['''+6''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-01-20&chfieldto=2010-01-27&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''3''') {{greyText|[-3 since last meeting]}} ('''0''' were 2.1-targeted; 1 was website, 1 was 2.0.2)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (4) {{greyText|[-2 since last meeting]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''5''') {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}

@@ Line 5: / Line 5: @@
 * Camino 2.0.1
 ** Released eight weeks ago Friday
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.1 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3537, ~ +330 over two weeks <!--(more than 2x the highs of Talkback, but now showing top 300 sigs, too)--> - '''NEW''' [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.1 topcrashers by URL]
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.1 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3376, ~ -161 over two weeks  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.1 topcrashers by URL])
-*** About half the last increase, but the total 2wk number is still rising
+*** First recorded decline!? over 2wk period (mostly Flash)
-*** #1 <!--1131--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player}} (32%)
+*** #1 <!--950--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player}} (32%)
-*** #2 <!--202--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (6%)
+*** #2 <!--171--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (6%)
-*** #3 <!--94--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (3%)
+*** #3 <!--91--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
-*** #4 <!--86--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--88--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (3%)
 *** #5 <!--79--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #6 <!--66--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
+*** #6 <!--73--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
-*** #7 <!--54--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError; unknown) (2%)
+*** #7 <!--61--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError; unknown) (2%)
-*** #7 <!--54--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
+*** #8 <!--60--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%)
-*** #9 <!--53--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #9 <!--58--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #10 <!--45--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%)
+*** #10 <!--55--> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
 <!--
 *** #4 <!- -71- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|gfxPlatform::GetCMSOutputProfile()}} - {{bug|529993}} (comments mentioning upgrading from 1.6.10 and "first launch"; surely CMS pref not set?) (2%)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}} -->
 *** Mostly lots of misc signatures
 * Website
@@ Line 42: / Line 44: @@
 ** Gecko release 16 Feb
 ** Waiting on a new patch from cl for {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
-** Can we get someone to make the docshell change bz suggests? - {{bug|541743}}
+** Can we get someone to make the docshell change bz suggests? - {{bug|541743}} (top 20 crash)
 ** netError - one more crazy possibility, but not likely
 * [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]