Status Meetings:2010-03-03:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ fix

2010-03-03T21:24:24Z

General Plans: fix

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ typo2

2010-03-03T21:15:00Z

General Plans: typo2

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ oops

2010-03-03T21:13:37Z

General Plans: oops

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ this is related to IME

2010-03-03T06:19:57Z

General Plans: this is related to IME

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ ugh, crashes

2010-03-03T06:11:03Z

General Plans: ugh, crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes

2010-03-03T05:08:57Z

all but crashes

New page

Wed 3 March 1pm PST (21:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.2
** Released a week ago Tuesday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 53,  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])

*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (32%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFDictionaryGetValue}} (facebook uploader) (2%)
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy() }} (1%) - {{bug|541743}}
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
*** #5  {{BPsig|2.0.2|TLWFNType1Font::TLWFNType1Font}}

* Camino 1.6.10
** Released twenty-two weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''1078''', ~ -114 last week
*** Flash Player (not counting any related CF signatures, etc.) 46% of 1.6.10 crashes last week

* [[Releases:1.6.11:Links|Camino 1.6.11]]
** EOL for 1.6.x!
** Need to decide about Feb 2010 ad-blocking (vBulletin fix)
** Will probably minibranch {{bug|451898}}, too
** Gecko release currently scheduled for 12 March
* [[Releases:2.0.3:Links|Camino 2.0.3]]
** Waiting on a new patch from cl for {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
** docshell change landed last Fri on all branches - {{bug|541743}} (top 10 crash)
** Have logging now for {{bug|541897}}; smorgan was going to look at the plug-in source as a next step[http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-02-03:Log#16:18]
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]])
** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of code
** History migration - ETA from kreeger?
** Downloads prefPane icon and other icon tweaks - waiting on ardissone
** Fixing minor bugs here and there
** Alpha 1?
* [[Development:Good_Bugs_and_Projects#Summer_of_Code_2010|Summer of Code 2010]]
** Adding stuff to scratchpad as we go along
* 2010 About.com Reader's Choice Awards - [http://browsers.about.com/od/allaboutwebbrowsers/ss/2010-readers-choice-awards-web-browsers-voting_7.htm Best Independent Web Browser] and [http://macs.about.com/od/readertoreader/ss/readers-choice-2010-vote_8.htm Best Mac Browser] finalist; as expected, we did not win :P

* AppZapper
** Updates?
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Still slow; not much happening in the last week. Big jumps in UNCOs past two weeks.

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (18) {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs now, but missing any Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (6) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (732) {{greyText|['''+14''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-02-24&chfieldto=2010-03-03&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''3''') {{greyText|[-2 since last meeting]}} ('''0''' were 2.1-targeted; 2 were ad-blocking, 1 was relnotes)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (10) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''1''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}}

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 *** #9 <!--21--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
 *** #10 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFDictionaryGetValue}} (facebook uploader) (1%)
-*** #10 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*,%20nsString&)}} (related to IME somehow) (1%)
+*** #10 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*,%20nsString%26)}} (related to IME somehow) (1%)
 <!--
 *** #9 <!- -12- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)

@@ Line 7: / Line 7: @@
 *** Those numbers don't seem right, since the report includes 1,353 crashes, not 75.54% of all 1,353 crashes - filed {{bug|549811}}.
 *** #1 <!--342--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
-*** #2 <!--79--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy() }} (6%) - {{bug|541743}}
+*** #2 <!--79--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (6%) - {{bug|541743}}
 *** #3 <!--68--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (5%)
 *** #4 <!--38--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (3%)

@@ Line 5: / Line 5: @@
 ** Released a week ago Tuesday
 ** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 1353, ~ +'''1300'''<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
-*** Those numbers don't seem right, since the report includes 3764 crashes, not 75.54% of all 1,353 crashes - filed {{bug|549811}}.
+*** Those numbers don't seem right, since the report includes 1,353 crashes, not 75.54% of all 1,353 crashes - filed {{bug|549811}}.
 *** #1 <!--342--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
 *** #2 <!--79--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy() }} (6%) - {{bug|541743}}

@@ Line 16: / Line 16: @@
 *** #9 <!--21--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
 *** #10 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFDictionaryGetValue}} (facebook uploader) (1%)
-*** #10 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*,%20nsString&)}} (unknown) (1%)
+*** #10 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*,%20nsString&)}} (related to IME somehow) (1%)
 <!--
 *** #9 <!- -12- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)

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 * Camino 2.0.2
 ** Released a week ago Tuesday
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 53, <!--~ +'''1000'''-->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 1353, ~ +'''1300'''<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
-<!--*** Those numbers don't seem right, since the report includes 3764 crashes, not 70% of all 3764 crashes - still need to file a bug.-->
+*** Those numbers don't seem right, since the report includes 3764 crashes, not 75.54% of all 1,353 crashes - filed {{bug|549811}}.
-*** #1 <!--17--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (32%)
+*** #1 <!--342--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
-*** #2 <!--6--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFDictionaryGetValue}} (facebook uploader) (2%)
+*** #2 <!--79--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy() }} (6%) - {{bug|541743}}
-*** #3 <!--5--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy() }} (1%) - {{bug|541743}}
+*** #3 <!--68--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (5%)
-*** #4 <!--3--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
+*** #4 <!--38--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (3%)
-*** #5 <!--3--> {{BPsig|2.0.2|TLWFNType1Font::TLWFNType1Font}}
+*** #5 <!--27--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
 <!--
-*** #2 <!- -1- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (3%)
+*** #9 <!- -12- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
 *** #6 <!- -72- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (one of several similar NEW font-related crashes; seems Flash-related) (2%)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}} -->
 * Camino 1.6.10
 ** Released twenty-two weeks ago Tuesday
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''1078''', ~ -114 last week<!-- -->
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1610/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2009092522&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.10 crashes]) — '''1075''', ~ -3 last week<!-- -->
 *** Flash Player (not counting any related CF signatures, etc.) 46% of 1.6.10 crashes last week<!---->
 <!--*** #1 Flash is 25% of all 1.6.10 crashes so far (down from 1.6.9's 28% peak)