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Sardisson: /* General Plans */ breakin' on up

2010-03-31T05:57:05Z

General Plans: breakin' on up

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ stuff + talkback

2010-03-31T05:27:01Z

General Plans: stuff + talkback

Sardisson: queues

2010-03-31T05:10:48Z

queues

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Wed 31 March 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.2
** Released 5 weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 2312 (71.45%), ~ +'''300''' (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (27%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (4%) - {{bug|541743}}
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (3%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (3%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (4%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFReadStreamGetStatus}} (long-since-fixed Flash {{bug|494448}}) (1%)
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (2%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help

** Keychain crash has returned; {{bug|512730}} didn't fix it
** Seeing some cases of the Flash+Exposé crash's stack ({{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}}) - 10.6.2, don't seem to be doing Exposé or fullscreen; also mostly 10.1.51.95 ("10.1 beta 3"), but some recent Flash 10.0
* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 2 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Need to see stats to see how many 10.4/5/6 stragglers we have
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1611/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2010030519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.11 crashes]) — '''82''', +74 last week
*** Flash Player (not counting any related CF signatures, etc.) 37% of 1.6.11 crashes last week

* [[Releases:2.0.3:Links|Camino 2.0.3]]
** Gecko release currently scheduled for 30 March
** We probably want to hold the release for any fixes that are "close"
*** Waiting on a new patch from cl for {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
*** Waiting on pink to sr new spotlight regime - {{bug|549179}}
*** Sort-of waiting on cl to review "fixing" Fx3 bookmarks import - {{bug|550816}}
** docshell change landed a couple weeks ago on all branches - {{bug|541743}} (top 10 crash)
** There's a new JEP that fixes a number of bugs that just missed cut-off; might think about minibranching it
** Have logging now for {{bug|541897}}; smorgan was going to look at the plug-in source as a next step[http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-02-03:Log#16:18]
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed)
** All of hendy's and ardissone's patches up for sr or have been sr- for changes (except Downloads folder)
*** many landed in the [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/alqahira_ardisson.org/camino-1.9.2-test/ test repo]; 1 patch away from buildable-from-repo, handful from being usable
*** Waiting on branch approvals to begin to land required packaging fix
*** Some progress on about:config integer issue
** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding; Dan's busy
** Downloads prefPane icon and other icon tweaks - landed dl_open and dl_reveal fixes; philippe to do new revisions of the 3 prefPane icons
** Fixing minor bugs here and there
** Alpha 1?
* [[Development:Good_Bugs_and_Projects#Summer_of_Code_2010|Summer of Code 2010]]
** Need to publicize all over
** Mentoring?
** Student apps begin Monday 29 Mar; close 9 Apr [http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline]
** pink went through the other day (no one's looked at the core draggable tabs patch, though)

* AppZapper
* Website - SSL has been, uh, erratic of late
** Updates?
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Some patches generated for 1.9.2, 6 bugs landed in cvs or test repo, but slower overall. Big jumps in UNCOs past month.

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (24) {{greyText|[-1 since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (8) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (754) {{greyText|['''+3''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-03-24&chfieldto=2010-03-31&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''7''') {{greyText|[+5 since last meeting]}} ('''1''' was 2.1-targeted; 1 was website)

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&chfield=status_whiteboard&chfieldfrom=2010-03-24&chfieldto=2010-03-31&chfieldvalue=%5bcm192test%5d Bugs landed in the test repo since last meeting] ('''3''') {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (4) {{greyText|[-1 since last meeting]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''3''') {{greyText|[-3 since last meeting]}}

@@ Line 4: / Line 4: @@
 * Camino 2.0.2
 ** Released 5 weeks ago Tuesday
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 2312 (71.45%), ~ +'''300'''<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 2832 (70.22%), ~ +'''520'''<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
-*** #1 <!--630--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (27%)
+*** #1 <!--776--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (27%)
-*** #2 <!--101--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (4%) - {{bug|541743}}
+*** #2 <!--132--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (5%) - {{bug|541743}}
-*** #3 <!--68--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (3%)
+*** #3 <!--81--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (3%)
-*** #4 <!--52--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #3 <!--81--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (3%)
-*** #5 <!--51--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (3%)
+*** #5 <!--56--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
-*** #5 <!--51--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (4%)
+*** #6 <!--53--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
-*** #7 <!--42--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
+*** #6 <!--53--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #8 <!--41--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
+*** #8 <!--49--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #9 <!--33--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFReadStreamGetStatus}} (long-since-fixed Flash {{bug|494448}}) (1%)
+*** #9 <!--48--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; unknown)
-*** #10 <!--32--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (2%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help
+*** #10 <!--44--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
 <!--
-*** #10 <!- -25- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
+*** #9 <!- -33- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFReadStreamGetStatus}} (long-since-fixed Flash {{bug|494448}}) (1%)
 *** #10 <!- -16- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFDictionaryGetValue}} (facebook uploader) (1%)
 *** #10 <!- -16- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*,%20nsString%26)}} (related to IME somehow) (1%)

@@ Line 29: / Line 29: @@
 ** Released 2 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
 ** Need to see stats to see how many 10.4/5/6 stragglers we have
-** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1611/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2010030519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.11 crashes]) — '''82''', +74 last week<!-- -->
+** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1611/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2010030519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.11 crashes]) — '''143''', +61 last week<!-- -->
 *** Flash Player (not counting any related CF signatures, etc.) 37% of 1.6.11 crashes last week<!---->
 <!--*** #1 Flash is 25% of all 1.6.10 crashes so far (down from 1.6.9's 28% peak)
@@ Line 40: / Line 40: @@
 *** #3 {{TBsig|16|2009092522|AppKit}} on 10.3.9-->
 * [[Releases:2.0.3:Links|Camino 2.0.3]]
-** Gecko release currently scheduled for 30 March
+** Gecko release yesterday
-** We probably want to hold the release for any fixes that are "close"
+*** hendy working on new patch for cl’s {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
-*** Waiting on a new patch from cl for {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
+*** New spotlight regime ({{bug|549179}}) had unexpected Ts hit + inexplicable bustage
-*** Waiting on pink to sr new spotlight regime - {{bug|549179}}
+*** Couple of fixed bugs to land when not busy
 ** docshell change landed a couple weeks ago on all branches - {{bug|541743}} (top 10 crash)
-** There's a new JEP that fixes a number of bugs that just missed cut-off; might think about minibranching it
+** There's a new JEP that fixes a number of bugs that just missed cut-off; now leaning towards not minibranching it (user-installable)
 ** Have logging now for {{bug|541897}}; smorgan was going to look at the plug-in source as a next step[http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-02-03:Log#16:18]
 * [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
 ** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
 ** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed)
-** All of hendy's and ardissone's patches up for sr or have been sr- for changes (except Downloads folder)
+** All of hendy's patches up for sr; one from mstange, too
-*** many landed in the [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/alqahira_ardisson.org/camino-1.9.2-test/ test repo]; 1 patch away from buildable-from-repo, handful from being usable
+*** Decent Hg import now, new test repo: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/alqahira_ardisson.org/camino-1.9.2-new
-*** Waiting on branch approvals to begin to land required packaging fix
+*** Core packaging fix landed; ran tinderbox; hit {{bug|555885}} :(
 *** Some progress on about:config integer issue
 ** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding; Dan's busy
-** Downloads prefPane icon and other icon tweaks - landed dl_open and dl_reveal fixes; philippe to do new revisions of the 3 prefPane icons
+** Icon tweaks - prefPane icons; philippe has new broom icon for f? - {{bug|555147}}
 ** Fixing minor bugs here and there
 ** Alpha 1?
 * [[Development:Good_Bugs_and_Projects#Summer_of_Code_2010|Summer of Code 2010]]
-** Need to publicize all over
+** Need to do an additional post of some sort mid-way through app period
-** Mentoring?
+** Student apps began Monday; close 9 Apr [http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline]
-** Student apps begin Monday 29 Mar; close 9 Apr [http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline]
+** One potential student stopped by Monday night
 ** pink went through the other day (no one's looked at the core draggable tabs patch, though)
 <!--* Tinderboxen
@@ Line 76: / Line 75: @@
 ** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM -->
 * AppZapper
-* Website - SSL has been, uh, erratic of late
+* Website - Sam maybe working on stats?
 ** Updates?
 * Weekly Bugs and Queues update
-** Some patches generated for 1.9.2, 6 bugs landed in cvs or test repo, but slower overall. Big jumps in UNCOs past month.
+** Some patches generated for 1.9.2, 10 bugs landed in cvs or test repo. Big jumps in UNCOs past month.
 ==Specific bugs that need action==