Status Meetings:2010-04-28:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashing sucks

2010-04-28T05:02:07Z

General Plans: crashing sucks

Sardisson: stuff+queries+talkback

2010-04-28T04:38:06Z

stuff+queries+talkback

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Wed 28 April 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.2
** Released 9 weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3743 (72.38%), ~ +'''115''' (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
*** Top sites: chatroulette, facebook
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (26%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (1%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; unknown) (1%)
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help

** Keychain crash has returned; {{bug|512730}} didn't fix it

** Is the Sparkle-related crash {{BPsig|2.0.2|strlen%20%7c%20-%5bNSXMLTreeReader%20processRealDocument:%5d}} ([http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/camino/sparkle/SUAppcast.m#58 mxr]) another case of https://bugs.launchpad.net/sparkle/+bug/456514 ([http://github.com/andymatuschak/Sparkle/commit/bd80144c7b67b7a66c215e40174dfb9310843573 commit]) ? (bug report doesn't mention the crash stack; note we don't have the null-checks that commit added, either)
* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 6 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Need to see stats to see how many 10.4/5/6 stragglers we have
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM1611/index.html Talkback] needs MoCo to set up report ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2010030519&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=0 all 1.6.11 crashes]) — '''420''', +65 last week (decrease)
*** Flash Player (not counting any related CF signatures, etc.) 43% of 1.6.11 crashes last week

* [[Releases:2.0.3:Links|Camino 2.0.3]]
** Gecko release four weeks ago
*** hendy working on new patch for cl’s {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
*** Possible issue with new Spotlight importer being in use after quit - {{bug|559129}}; smorgan restructured metadata writing, awaiting sr
** docshell change landed a couple weeks ago on all branches - {{bug|541743}} (top 10 crash)
** There's a new JEP that fixes a number of bugs that just missed cut-off; now leaning towards not minibranching it (user-installable)
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** Last of hendy's original 1.9.2 patches landed last week!
*** One patch from mstange - 10.6 print settings (needs more comments from Markus)
*** hendy has partial fix for autocomplete window issues ({{bug|548476}}), awaiting sr; bug now seen on 1.9.0 on slow Macs
*** Hg repo: http://hg.mozilla.org/camino/; MXR: http://mxr.mozilla.org/camino/
**** [http://hg.mozilla.org/camino/pushloghtml pushloghtml] = very, very poor man's bonsai
**** [[Development:Building:Mozilla 1.9.2 Branch]]
*** {{bug|560323}} tracking things still needing to be fixed before nightlies
*** Tinderbox tests issue: {{bug|555885}} - smorgan will look at post-tree :(
*** No progress on about:config integer issue or 10.6 building in last week
** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding; Dan's busy
** Icon tweaks - last(?) of new icons awaiting sr
** Alpha 1?
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04 is back, and 100ms faster using NIC2 :P

* AppZapper
* Website - Sam maybe working on stats?
** Updates?
* murph
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Still not much happening; need to get traction on 2.0.3 bugs and Alive/Ts/xpconnect issue

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (23) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (11) {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (750) {{greyText|['''-2''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-04-21&chfieldto=2010-04-28&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''7''') {{greyText|[+5 since last meeting]}} ('''0''' were 2.1-targeted; 4 were 1.9.2, 2 were general crash-related)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  ''all old''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''7''') {{greyText|[+4 since last meeting]}}

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 ** Released 9 weeks ago Tuesday
 ** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3743 (72.38%), ~ +'''115'''<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
 *** Top sites: chatroulette, facebook
-*** #1 <!--954--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (26%)
+*** #1 <!--957--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (26%)
-*** #2 <!--107--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
+*** #2 <!--113--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
-*** #3 <!--75--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #3 <!--69--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #4 <!--59--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
+*** #4 <!--66--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
-*** #5 <!--55--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--66--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #6 <!--50--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (1%)
+*** #6 <!--47--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
-*** #7 <!--48--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
+*** #7 <!--43--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--45--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
+*** #8 <!--41--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
-*** #9 <!--42--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; unknown) (1%)
+*** #9 <!--37--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help
-*** #10 <!--38--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help
+*** #10 <!--34--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
 <!--
-*** #6 <!- -53- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
+*** #9 <!- -42- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; unknown) (1%)
 *** #9 <!- -33- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFReadStreamGetStatus}} (long-since-fixed Flash {{bug|494448}}) (1%)
 *** #10 <!- -16- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFDictionaryGetValue}} (facebook uploader) (1%)
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 ** Keychain crash has returned; {{bug|512730}} didn't fix it
 <!--** Seeing some cases of the Flash+Exposé crash's stack ({{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}}) - 10.6.2, don't seem to be doing Exposé or fullscreen; also mostly 10.1.51.95 ("10.1 beta 3"), but some recent Flash 10.0-->
 * Camino 1.6.11
 ** Released 6 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x