Status Meetings:2010-05-12:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ oops

2010-05-12T20:41:38Z

General Plans: oops

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ add key events reminder

2010-05-12T06:33:27Z

General Plans: add key events reminder

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ more interesting data

2010-05-12T04:14:14Z

General Plans: more interesting data

Sardisson: edit, edit

2010-05-12T03:34:25Z

edit, edit

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashy crashy

2010-05-12T03:32:30Z

General Plans: crashy crashy

Sardisson: all but crashes?

2010-05-12T03:13:21Z

all but crashes?

New page

Wed 12 May 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.2
** Released 11 weeks ago Tuesday
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3160 (72.23%), ~ -'''583''' (% language/calculation was fixed) (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
*** Increase in Flash and docshell
*** Top sites: facebook, chatroulette
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to VLC and Move-Media-Player; '''new''') (1%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; unknown) (1%)
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help

** Keychain crash has returned; {{bug|512730}} didn't fix it

* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 8 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Need to see stats to see how many 10.4/5/6 stragglers we have


* [[Releases:2.0.3:Links|Camino 2.0.3]]
** Gecko release 6 weeks ago
*** Need to cut things off this week; need Spotlight patch in
*** Possible issue with new Spotlight importer being in use after quit - {{bug|559129}}; smorgan restructured metadata writing, awaiting sr
*** hendy working on new patch for cl’s {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
** Possibly figured out the "Resetting doesn’t clear Recently Closed Pages" {{bug|529500}} - need suggestions on how to fix
** docshell change landed a couple weeks ago on all branches - {{bug|541743}} (top 10 crash)
** There's a new JEP that fixes a number of bugs that just missed cut-off; now leaning towards not minibranching it (user-installable)
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** One patch from mstange - 10.6 print settings (needs more comments from Markus)
*** {{bug|560323}} tracking things still needing to be fixed before nightlies
*** Tinderbox tests issue: {{bug|555885}} - smorgan will look at post-tree :(
*** No progress on about:config integer issue or 10.6 building in last week
** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding; Dan's busy
** Icon tweaks - last of new icons landed
** Alpha 1?
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04 is back, and 100ms faster using NIC2 :P

* AppZapper
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Continues to be slow; need to get traction on 2.0.3 bugs and Alive/Ts/xpconnect issue

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (3) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (25) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (12) {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (756) {{greyText|['''+2''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-05-05&chfieldto=2010-05-12&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''1''') {{greyText|[-5 since last meeting]}} ('''0''' were 2.1-targeted; 1 was crash regression)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (4) {{greyText|[unchanged]}}  ''all old''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''2''') {{greyText|[unchanged]}}

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-*** #6 <!--47--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help
+*** #6 <!--47--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
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-*** #7 <!--46--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (10.4.11 ATS via Flash) (1%)
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-*** #9 <!--41--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to VLC and Move-Media-Player; '''new''') (1%)
+*** #9 <!--41--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (1%)
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 * Camino 1.6.11
 ** Released 8 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x

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 *** No progress on about:config integer issue or 10.6 building in last week
 ** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding; Dan's busy
 ** Alpha 1?
 * Tinderboxen

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 ** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
 ** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
 *** One patch from mstange - 10.6 print settings (needs more comments from Markus)
 *** {{bug|560323}} tracking things still needing to be fixed before nightlies

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 * Camino 2.0.2
 ** Released 11 weeks ago Tuesday
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3160 (72.23%), ~ -'''583''' (% language/calculation was fixed)<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.2 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 4313 (71.71%), ~ +'''1153''' (major increase)<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.2 topcrashers by URL])
-*** Increase in Flash and docshell
+*** Increase in sendEvent, 10.4.11 _NSRaiseError crashes; new ATSUI-via-Flash
 *** Top sites: facebook, chatroulette
-*** #1 <!--1092--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (25%)
+*** #1 <!--1042--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (24%)
-*** #2 <!--133--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
+*** #2 <!--124--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
-*** #3 <!--78--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #3 <!--81--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #4 <!--70--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--75--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #4 <!--70--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; unknown) (2%)
+*** #5 <!--56--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
-*** #6 <!--47--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to VLC and Move-Media-Player; '''new''') (1%)
+*** #6 <!--47--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help
-*** #7 <!--45--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
+*** #7 <!--46--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--44--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
+*** #7 <!--46--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (10.4.11 ATS via Flash) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--44--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; unknown) (1%)
+*** #9 <!--41--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to VLC and Move-Media-Player; '''new''') (1%)
-*** #10 <!--43--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} landed, didn't help
+*** #10 <!--39--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
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