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2010-05-12T20:51:58Z

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==Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-05-12 15:20:54 -0400==

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| id="15:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:20 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.

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| id="15:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:21 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-05-12:Agenda".

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| id="15:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:21 || || style="color: #555;" | » ss was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="15:57" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:57 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton joined the chat room.

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| id="15:57" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:57 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton was promoted to operator by ChanServ.

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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan joined the chat room.

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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || brb
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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || well, let's get started
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || not sure where hendy really is :)
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-05-12:Agenda
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we had a large increase in the total number of crashes (and a corresponding small decrease in the % of crashes covered by the topcrasher report)
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the top two, Flash and the (fixed-everywhere-but-2.0.2) docshell crash declined
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the various sendEvent crashes increased, as did our 10.4.11-exception-related crashes
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || new to the top10 this week is a 10.4.11 ATSUI crash triggered by Flash
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || also, i feel like we've talked about this before

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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || nice!

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but there was a spate of crashes this week in -[NSKeyedUnarchiver initForReadingWithData:] unarchiving site icons on startup
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || there's not any way we can prevent that, is there?
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we had bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=394772 before, which were exceptions unarchiving

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Not without moving it OOP

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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hehe
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || OK
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || these are on 10.6.3
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so i suppose if we happened to be able to reproduce, it would be worthwhile to rdar:// it
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but there were no emails associated with the reports

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || We could try anyway and see if they can work from the crash reports
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'll do that soon

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || k
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'll file a bug so we can have somewhere to track it
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and store awesome urls like https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/list?product=Camino&version=Camino%3A2.0.2&build_id=&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query=-[NSKeyedUnarchiver%20initForReadingWithData%3A]&date=&range_value=1&range_unit=weeks&process_type=all&plugin_field=&plugin_query_type=&plugin_query=&do_query=1&signature=-[NSKeyedUnarchiver%20initForReadingWithData%3A]&missing_sig=&page=1 :P
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anything else on 2.0.2?
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || or we could hang it off of bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535948
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but i think that bug was corrupt nibs
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 10.4
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yeah, i'll file a new bug
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on the 1.6.x front, all I can say is that Sam was working on stats over the weekend

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || || style="color: #555;" | » hendy joined the chat room.

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || because he asked me what we should do about our large (10s of Ks) installs that ping irregularly
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :P

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || || style="color: #555;" | » hendy was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone else on 1.6.x? :P
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || 2.0.3
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || pinkerton: any ETA on sring smorgan's metadata rewrite?

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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || i can do it shortly, i guess.

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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || awesome :)
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we'll get that in, i'll work up relnotes, and aim for a release later next week probably
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hendy: any news from you on flashblock?

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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | hendy: || no, sorry. :(

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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || k
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i think i sort-of figured out the whole "reset camino doesn't reset Recently Closed Pages"
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529500
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || at least *a* way to trigger it

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'll try to look this weekend

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || (by not opening History menu since last Reset)
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || thanks :)
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anything else on 2.0.3?
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 2.1 stuff
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: did you get my mail about the key event propagation stuff?

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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || wow, 1200 bookmarks

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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || yes, sorry

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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || || style="color: #555;" | » Wevah joined the chat room.

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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || || style="color: #555;" | » Wevah was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || someone finally filed the 1.9.2 version of "delete doesn't work"
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :P

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'll talk to josh soon

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || thanks :)
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || basically that and "content can consume all keystrokes" are the only major "fixed in Gecko for Camino before" bugs that we've lost
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || since the sendEvent swizzling is gone
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i don't know if we can convince Core to take that "don't let js eat everything" patch again :P
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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || josh seemed vehemently opposed before

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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || sr done

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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || But we're also already hosed for 1.9.2 being fixed :P

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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :P
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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || pinkerton: ty :)
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || in terms of getting a 2.1 alpha out (since I just had to change the cutoff date for 2.1a1pre crash reports again :P )
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || autocomplete really is still too slow
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we still need to fix that before we can have something even off of 1.9.0
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hopefully dan will be getting done with school soon and will have some time?
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: you haven't heard from him by chance, have you?

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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || nope

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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || OK
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'll put a ping on my list, then
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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i've been jumping back and forth between things (and building fences on the weekend), so nothing solid on 1.9.2 from me
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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone have anything else on 2.1 or 1.9.2?
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| id="16:42" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:42 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || On the plus side, our review queues are in really good shape ;)
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| id="16:42" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:42 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on the minus side, there haven't been that many patches
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| id="16:43" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:43 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but at least the smaller ones, when they arrive, have gone through the queue pretty quickly :)
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| id="16:44" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:44 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone have anything on anything else today?
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| id="16:45" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:45 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || OK then
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| id="16:46" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:46 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || everyone work on those 2.1/1.9.2 bugs and tasks, and have a good week :)
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