Status Meetings:2010-06-02:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ oops

2010-06-02T20:09:01Z

General Plans: oops

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ 1p?

2010-06-02T06:06:56Z

General Plans: 1p?

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ i hate crashes

2010-06-02T05:58:56Z

General Plans: i hate crashes

Sardisson: stuff plus queries/queues

2010-06-02T04:55:51Z

stuff plus queries/queues

New page

Wed 2 Jun 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.3
** Released week ago today
** Working up collecting breakpad l10ns to upstream
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3858 (71.84%), ~ -'''112''' (very slight decrease) (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])
*** Decline in Flash, docshell, sendEvent, 10.4.11 _NSRaiseError crashes
*** Increase in _objc_error and runloop

*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (23%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (2%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
*** #9  is missing signature
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (10.4.11 ATS via Flash; '''new''') (1%)
*** #11  is {{BPsig|2.0.2|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (1%)

* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 11 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Some pre-2.0.3 stats show too many 10.4/5/6 stragglers; need to check post-2.0.3
* [[Releases:2.0.4:Links|Camino 2.0.4]]
** hendy working on new patch for cl’s {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
** There's a new JEP that fixes a number of bugs that just missed Gecko cut-off; want to see how prevalent Java crashes fixed by it are in 2.0.3
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments; some updates on the Planning page, too.
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** Nightly builds
**** Began promoting them last week and switched nightly build link (also picked up by [http://blog.mozilla.com/about_mozilla/2010/06/01/firefox-audio-mozfdn-soc-2010-add-ons-fennec-parks-and-more/#software about:mozilla] as well)
**** smorgan fixed symbols this weekend
**** {{bug|560323}} tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized
*** key events - smorgan poked josh; josh on vacation
*** No progress on about:config integer issue or 10.6 building in last week
** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding; Dan should be hackable soon-ish
** GTM license incompatibility :(
** Alpha 1?
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04 had 100ms Ts loss event a few weeks ago - {{bug|567813}}

* AppZapper
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Lots of progress this week+weekend; pink+smorgan cleared sr queue Mon/Tue!

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (3) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (28) {{greyText|[+4 since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (14) {{greyText|[-1 since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (765) {{greyText|['''-2''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-05-26&chfieldto=2010-06-02&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''13''') {{greyText|[+11 since last meeting]}} ('''3''' were 2.1-targeted; 3 were website; 1 was license nonsense, 1 was relnotes)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (5) {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}  ''all old, except for Gerv''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''Zarro''') {{greyText|[-3 since last week, and then some]}}

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-* Is the current 1Password IM generating the warning? e.g. {{bp|9dcaf4e9-4440-4752-9bbd-ee8682100527}}
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 ** Released week ago today
 ** Working up collecting breakpad l10ns to upstream
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 3858 (71.84%), ~ -'''112''' (very slight decrease)<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 1 week - 1294 (79.34%) (only 1 week, but looks to be a slight decrease)<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])
-*** Decline in Flash, docshell, sendEvent, 10.4.11 _NSRaiseError crashes
+*** No sign of docshell topcrash!
-*** Increase in _objc_error and runloop
+*** Decline in top crashes across the board (even with 1/2 the crashes); more long tail
 <!--*** Top sites: facebook, chatroulette-->
-*** #1 <!--873--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player}} (23%)
+*** #1 <!--286--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player}} (22%)
-*** #2 <!--98--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|nsDocShell::FirePageHideNotification(int)}} / {{BPsig|2.0.2|@0x0%20%7c%20nsDocShell::Destroy()}} (3%) - {{bug|541743}}
+*** #2 <!--24--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|gfxAtsuiFontGroup::GuessMaximumStringLength()}} (2%) (seems familiar, but no relevant bugs)
-*** #3 <!--84--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #3 <!--18--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (1%)
-*** #4 <!--65--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--17--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
-*** #5 <!--44--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--17--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
-*** #6 <!--43--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #6 <!--16--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|CheckMapHeaderCommon}} (10.5.8, opening plug-in resource fork) (1%)
-*** #6 <!--43--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (2%)
+*** #7 <!--15--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--38--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
+*** #8 <!--14--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|_cache_getMethod}} (FXPSACJAccount PDE) (1%)
-*** #9 <!--37--> is missing signature
+*** #9 <!--12--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|StartDraw}} (QuickTime) (1%)
-*** #10 <!--36--> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (10.4.11 ATS via Flash; '''new''') (1%)
+*** #9 <!--12--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (1%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
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-*** #10 <!- -39- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
+*** #3 <!- -84- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #8 <!- -31- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
+*** #5 <!- -44- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (2%)
-*** #8 <!- -14- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
+*** #10 <!- -39- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
-*** #9 <!- -40- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|JS_CallTracer}}
+*** #8 <!- -10- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn't that fix this? (1%)
-*** #9 <!- -33- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|CFReadStreamGetStatus}} (long-since-fixed Flash {{bug|494448}}) (1%)
+*** #8 <!- -9- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.1|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (2%)
-*** #9 <!- -12- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
+*** #9 <!- -12- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)
-*** #6 <!- -72- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.2|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (one of several similar NEW font-related crashes; seems Flash-related) (2%)
+*** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}} -->
 * Camino 1.6.11