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==Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-06-09 16:00:10 -0400==

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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.

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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-06-09:Agenda".

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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:00" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:00 || || style="color: #555;" | » hendy was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i assume no-one else today because of WWDD
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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'll be right back, though

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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || pink is here

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| id="16:03" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:03 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh, really?!
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || was all prepared for an entirely empty room today :P

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Yes, just without a laptop
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || It's lunch right now

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ah
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || waves at pink ;)
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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-06-09:Agenda
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 2.0.3, crashes are still running lower-than-normal
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but something's not right
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I assume socorro is broken
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || because our #2 crash (#1 uncombined) is that null signature
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and at least 1/3 of those are valid, unprocessed crashes
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || most of the rest sound like the processor dying
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i have a bug in
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570906
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || no action yet

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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || || style="color: #555;" | » David1 left the chat room.

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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || otherwise not much change from last week
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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || topcrashing sites are a bit more diversified: google and youtube coming in, too
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || in answer to my question from last week, we do not warn for current 1password versions
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || otoh, they currently do not support anything newer than 2.0, and they warn
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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so everyone who is crashing should be being warned one way or the other
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i may try running the dump_syms on older versions to see which versions are causing the toolbar delegate crash
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || depending on my mood :P
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone have anything else on 2.0.3?
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on the 1.6.x front, talkback server is being taken out behind the woodshed next week
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || no idea if they're going to start telling clients not to call home, or if it will just throw errors

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || It can give its regards to 1.6 while it's back there ;)

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || left a comment on mrz's blog, but no response
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hehe
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anything else on 1.6.x? :P
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 2.0.4, we're starting to collect some bugs, mostly spotlight-related iirc
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hendy: i assume nothing new on the Flashblock whitelist work?
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :)

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | hendy: || nope, but i've been working on other camino stuff instead

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :)

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | hendy: || but now that i'm on a roll, i may get to the whitelist too

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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :D
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh, on 1.6.x, i'll try to poke sam again about getting stats through last week, so we can see if the 2.0.3 release made any dent in the 10.4-and-up stragglers
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anything else on 2.0.x?
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yesterday was a really awesome day, btw; it started with me repeatedly hanging Camino for 5mins on a new autocomplete bug and ended with bsmedberg removing the frozen embedding API :P
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: you and pink just missed josh
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i emailed you a transcript

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || yep, saw that email

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i guess i'll open a bug on figuring out what to do
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || code-wise
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hopefully pink will take his righteous indignation into the newsgroup ;) :P
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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyway, that pushes back any discussion on getting a repo, since we definitely don't build/aren't tinderboxable now
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i guess josh came by because he noticed the widget bug; dunno
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || unless you poked him about key events on the trunk

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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || nobody else seems to have noticed it :P

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || been no movement on either, though :(
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yeah, and with the tree closed all weekend, there was plenty of time to notice other bugs :P
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyway, thanks to smorgan for all the hard work in the last week or so to get us building on 1.9.3
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || sad to see the brick wall hit us in the face so quickly :(
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || speaking of brick walls

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Funny how familiar it feels...

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :(
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || "Mozilla: we toss brick walls in your path at our every whim!" :P
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: did you see my comment in our sparkle bug?

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || yes
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Is that really 10.6 only?

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i don't know

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I thought weak link support had been around for a while

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || 3.2 is, though
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || me too :/

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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Well, hopefully there won't be too many more changes to Sparkle

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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i guess i can install YAVCS and try to build and see what happens :P
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || (or maybe github generates a tarball, which would save me a step)
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || um
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || what else?
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || found a bunch of bugs yesterday, by accident :(
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || generally we haven't heard anything from nightly folks, which is good
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the focus bug is still annoying
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that plus some autocomplete stuff are still the alpha blockers
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'll ping dan next week if we haven't heard from him
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hendy: do you have anything specific you'd like to report about the roll you're on?

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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | hendy: || no, early stages yet.

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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok

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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | hendy: || i did look into the focus bug, but didn't get anywhere.

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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || sounds like me ;)
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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we have 10 of 14 l10ns participating in the breakpad-upstreaming so far
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| id="16:33" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:33 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'll send a reminder tonight and then work up a final thing this weekend, (pending garden requirements ;) )
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || forquare successfully built on 10.6, and I fixed up a couple things on the 10.6 build doc addendum
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || thanks to his input
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i also added some warnings to http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Development:Helpful_Mercurial_Commands about addremove and rebase
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || based on the calamity on mozilla-central this weekend :P
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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone have anything else on 1.9.2/1.9.3 or anything else?
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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok then

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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan left the chat room.

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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || heh
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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || "go finish your lunch and enjoy WWDC"
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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || too slow
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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || everyone try to have a good week in spite of the brick walls, and let's keep going on 2.1 ;)
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