Status Meetings:2010-07-28:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ oops

2010-07-28T20:07:29Z

General Plans: oops

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashes

2010-07-28T19:21:40Z

General Plans: crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes?

2010-07-28T18:39:54Z

all but crashes?

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Wed 28 Jul 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.3
** Released 9 weeks ago today
** 11 breakpad l10ns successfully upstreamed; thanks smorgan!
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 1 week - 3871 (73.52%) (+177; very high number of crashes) (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])
*** Top sites: chatroulette, facebook, youtube, google, twitter
*** Flash 10.1 crashes rising rapidly (incl +Exposé); Flash 10.0 crashes declining somewhat; most of this week's increase crashes could be covered by Flash
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player}} (19%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (5%)
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (2%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}} (redux for 10.1; patch in {{bug|577567}}) (2%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.3|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)

*** No new crashes in last week from the Jul 9 {{BPsig|2.0.3|nsSimpleGlobalHistory::RemoveMatchingRows}} when quitting on 10.5.8 ppc (but timestamps make it seem unlikely to be just one person) ?!
*** Growl-related crash: {{BPsig|2.0.3|copyIconDataForURL}}
* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 19 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Began serving an additional update prompt with scary warning last week; can prompt at will for additional updates
** Initial q&d stats show some gains for 2.0.3 and declines for 1.6.x in target audience
* [[Releases:2.0.4:Links|Camino 2.0.4]]
** {{bug|572487}} - Should not unescape %, other zero-width/space-like characters - need to work around 10.4 toolchain and Unicode literals
** hendy working on new patch for cl’s {{bug|532186}} (can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list)
** {{bug|569258}} - bookmarks metadata madness
** New JEP and most of the vast majority of browser-based security bugs patched since MoCo turned off 1.9.0 have landed (3 to go from the original set approved)
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** Bizarre focus blackholes on some pages (Bugzilla, Google Code) - {{bug|576821}}, {{bug|577059}}
*** Gecko focus - {{bug|563321}} is main one of many; Stuart debugged some and landed hackaround last week
*** Nightly builds - {{bug|560323}} tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized, but nothing critical
*** No progress on 10.6 building (mozsqlite+friends) in a long time
** Dan's perf patch ready for another round of coding - Stuart working as time allows
** Alpha 1 - soon? One blocker left (perf) without patch; need pink to clear his sr queue
* Gecko 2.0 fka 1.9.3 - on ice
** Embedding crash finally has a patch (of course world has broken since then)
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04 had 100ms Ts loss event a few weeks ago - {{bug|567813}}

* AppZapper
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Only two blockers left for a1 (one with patch), but slow week again

==Specific bugs that need action==

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (3) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (23) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (17) {{greyText|[-1 since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (794) {{greyText|['''+2''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-07-21&chfieldto=2010-07-28&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''5''') {{greyText|[+3 since last week]}} ('''1''' were 2.1-targeted; 2 were stats)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (4) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}  ''most old; cl owes ilya a review from Jan''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''4''') {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}

@@ Line 36: / Line 36: @@
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)
 *** #5 <!- -7- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.1|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}} -->
 * Camino 1.6.11
 ** Released 19 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x

@@ Line 5: / Line 5: @@
 ** Released 9 weeks ago today
 ** 11 breakpad l10ns successfully upstreamed; thanks smorgan!
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 1 week - 3871 (73.52%) (+177; very high number of crashes)<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 1 week - 3852 (71.94%) (-19; very high number of crashes)<!-- -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])
-*** Top sites: chatroulette, facebook, youtube, google, twitter
+*** Top sites: chatroulette, facebook, youtube, google, gmail
 *** Flash 10.1 crashes rising rapidly (incl +Exposé); Flash 10.0 crashes declining somewhat; most of this week's increase crashes could be covered by Flash
-*** #1 <!--734--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player}} (19%)
+*** #1 <!--675--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player}} (18%)
-*** #2 <!--186--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (5%)
+*** #2 <!--133--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (3%)
-*** #3 <!--93--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (2%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
+*** #3 <!--117--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (3%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
-*** #4 <!--88--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}} (redux for 10.1; patch in {{bug|577567}}) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--97--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}}  / {{BPsig|2.0.3|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} (unknown bug) (3%)
-*** #5 <!--60--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (2%)
+*** #5 <!--89--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #6 <!--63--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #6 <!--82--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}} (redux for 10.1; patch in {{bug|577567}}) (2%)
-*** #7 <!--58--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #7 <!--54--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--48--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
+*** #8 <!--46--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
-*** #9 <!--44--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
+*** #9 <!--45--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
-*** #10 <!--43--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
+*** #10 <!--36--> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
 <!--
 *** #8 <!- -35- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.3|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (1%)