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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;agenda!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wed 25 Aug 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg&lt;br /&gt;
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==General Plans==&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 2.0.3&lt;br /&gt;
** Released 13 weeks ago today&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.3 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 1 week - 3680 (71.68%) (-108; still very high number of crashes)&amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt;  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.3 topcrashers by URL])&lt;br /&gt;
*** Top sites: facebook, chatroulette, google, youtube, gmail&lt;br /&gt;
*** KeychainBrowserListener is top single crash, MakeKeyWindow right behind&lt;br /&gt;
*** #1 &amp;lt;!--585--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player}} (16%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #2 &amp;lt;!--138--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (4%) - {{bug|512730}} didn&amp;#039;t help&lt;br /&gt;
*** #3 &amp;lt;!--130--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20makeKeyWindow%5d}} (redux for 10.1; patch in {{bug|577567}}) (4%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #4 &amp;lt;!--115--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (3%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #5 &amp;lt;!--84--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}}  / {{BPsig|2.0.3|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} (unknown bug) (2%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #6 &amp;lt;!--80--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.3|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (2%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #7 &amp;lt;!--59--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #8 &amp;lt;!--50--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #9 &amp;lt;!--43--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #10 &amp;lt;!--43--&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--&lt;br /&gt;
*** #9 &amp;lt;!- -28- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSControl%20sendAction:to:%5d}} (unknown bug) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #10 &amp;lt;!- -31- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*** #8 &amp;lt;!- -35- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*** #9 &amp;lt;!- -29- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|glgProcessPixelsWithProcessor}} ({{bug|534044}} - NetFlix/Silverlight) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #9 &amp;lt;!- -29- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|StartDraw}} (QuickTime) (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
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*** #4 &amp;lt;!- -21- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|gfxAtsuiFontGroup::GuessMaximumStringLength()}} (2%) (seems familiar, but no relevant bugs)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*** #9 &amp;lt;!- -37- -&amp;gt; is missing signature&lt;br /&gt;
*** #10 &amp;lt;!- -36- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20LLCStyleInfoCreateActiveStyleInfo}} (10.4.11 ATS via Flash; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;new&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) (1%) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*** #8 &amp;lt;!- -10- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20nsNativeThemeCocoa::DrawPushButton}} - {{bug|530343}} - déjà vu crash: {{bug|458961}} (Core) aka {{bug|461715}} (Tabsposé) aka offscreen surfaces and exceptions - why didn&amp;#039;t that fix this? (1%)&lt;br /&gt;
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*** #9 &amp;lt;!- -12- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (2%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #5 &amp;lt;!- -7- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.3|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} (unknown bug)&lt;br /&gt;
*** #5 &amp;lt;!- -7- -&amp;gt; is {{BPsig|2.0.1|-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} with swizzling / {{BPsig|2.0|-%5bNSWindow(MethodSwizzling)%20nsCocoaWindow_NSWindow_sendEvent:%5d}}&lt;br /&gt;
 --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Camino 1.6.11&lt;br /&gt;
** Released 23 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Releases:2.0.4:Links|Camino 2.0.4]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to do website update and get smorgan to sign builds; release Thurs&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Releases:2.0.5:Links|Camino 2.0.5]]&lt;br /&gt;
** {{bug|532186}} - can&amp;#039;t paste URLs into Flash exceptions list - hendy&amp;#039;s been MIA&lt;br /&gt;
** {{bug|569258}} - bookmarks metadata madness&lt;br /&gt;
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this&lt;br /&gt;
** Have new &amp;quot;Profile Startup&amp;quot; bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments&lt;br /&gt;
** phiw/ardissone need feedback from smorgan on {{bug|521137}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Dan&amp;#039;s perf patch ready for another round of coding - Stuart working as time allows&lt;br /&gt;
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Bizarre focus blackholes on some pages (Bugzilla, Google Code) - {{bug|576821}}, {{bug|577059}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Gecko focus - {{bug|563321}} is main one of many; Stuart debugged some and landed hackaround last week&lt;br /&gt;
*** Nightly builds - {{bug|560323}} tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized, but nothing critical&lt;br /&gt;
*** No progress on 10.6 building (mozsqlite+friends) in a long time&lt;br /&gt;
** Alpha 1 - soon? One blocker left (perf) without patch, but murph needs to do a new patch, too&lt;br /&gt;
* Gecko 2.0 fka 1.9.3 - on ice&lt;br /&gt;
* Tinderboxen&lt;br /&gt;
** cb-xserve04 had 100ms Ts loss event a few weeks ago - {{bug|567813}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--*** ~8min Depend builds, 29min Clobbers, currently running 2.0 and 2.1, Ts, uploading “hourlies”&lt;br /&gt;
** cb-minibinus01 switched over to boxset-like config to be a temporary replacement; running Ts and Tdhtml&lt;br /&gt;
*** would like to get Tp working before switching back to normal config (need more static/PPC coverage)&lt;br /&gt;
** cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* AppZapper&lt;br /&gt;
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update&lt;br /&gt;
** Only 2-3 blockers left for a1, but slow week again; checkins delayed due to missing GPU&lt;br /&gt;
** Chris Peterson submitted patches&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specific bugs that need action==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Need test code for 10.5 AppKit menu changes (Cmd-=, alternates/NSEvents)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Other (if there&amp;#039;s time)===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 10.5 Visual UX&lt;br /&gt;
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}&lt;br /&gt;
* UNCOs&lt;br /&gt;
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing &amp;lt;select&amp;gt; lists&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag&amp;#039;n&amp;#039;drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)&lt;br /&gt;
** {{Bug|381295}} -  Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Queries==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Camino 2.1a1===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F  Blocking ?] (3) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B  Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Camino 2.1===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=Camino2.1&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (22)  {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F  Blocking ?] (21) {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B  Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;!-- subtract FIXED here--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;bug_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;bug_status=VERIFIED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Last+Changed&amp;amp;field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&amp;amp;type0-0-0=equals&amp;amp;value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- --&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;target_milestone=---&amp;amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target]   (789) {{greyText|[&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;+6&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; since last meeting]}} &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;need &amp;lt;!--to keep on top--&amp;gt; another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;resolution=FIXED&amp;amp;resolution=---&amp;amp;chfieldfrom=2010-08-18&amp;amp;chfieldto=2010-08-25&amp;amp;chfield=resolution&amp;amp;chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting]  (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;0&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) {{greyText|[-2 since last week]}} (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;0&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; were 2.1-targeted&amp;lt;!--; 1 was website, 1 was relnotes; 14 were ad-blocking, --&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Queues==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=review&amp;amp;group=type Review] (5) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} &amp;lt;!-- &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1 untargeted&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; --&amp;gt; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;most old; cl owes ilya a review from Jan&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&amp;amp;requester=&amp;amp;product=Camino&amp;amp;type=superreview&amp;amp;group=type Superreview]  (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;) {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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