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==Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-09-01 15:27:21 -0400==

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| id="15:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:27 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.

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| id="15:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:27 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-09-01:Agenda".

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| id="15:59" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:59 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan joined the chat room.

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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan was promoted to operator by sauron.

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| id="16:01" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:01 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || any pink?

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| id="16:02" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:02 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || checking
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| id="16:03" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:03 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || he should be here in a minute

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || k

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton joined the chat room.

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton was promoted to operator by sauron.

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || moof ;)

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || moof

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| id="16:04" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:04 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-09-01:Agenda
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || After many trials and much tribulation, we released 2.0.4 on Thursday
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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || generally seems to be going well, but there have been far more bizarro-post-problems than normal
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || perhaps mercury is in retrograde? :P
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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || crashes are fairly low so far, but we have a full week in yet
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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || certainly the complete lack of the #2 MakeKeyWindow Flash crash helps :)
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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || KeychainBrowserListener is still the top single crash, with 6% of all crashes
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || smorgan: did you see that one crash report i linked last week, showing that code "running" during shutdown?
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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/76f2498d-1acf-42b3-bea6-c93bd2100815

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| id="16:08" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:08 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Fun

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton left the chat room.

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'll look at that again someday when the location bar works

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || ok

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton joined the chat room.

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || er...

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » pinkerton was promoted to operator by sauron.

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || heh
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || the rest of the crashes are pretty much knowns, or known unknowns
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || we get some odd ones popping to to the top in the first couple weeks
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || on the fake update front, because of back-to-school and a bit of bad data, it's hard to tell how that effort is going lately
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || for 2.0.5, smorgan has figured out an additional trigger for "Importer in use" problems; that patch is in pink's queue

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || ok
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || i saw there were a copule

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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || if we *still* have a lot of problems with the importer we'll have to do something more drastic
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Install it to ~/Library on launch, for example

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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || heh

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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Or listen for update shutdowns and stall until any importer process ends

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || let's hope this handles everything but the "changed a bookmark and then quit" case!
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || and that that case is not common ;)
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || anything else on 2.0.x?

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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || What drives .5?
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Just us, or is there stuff being merged?

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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || just us
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || when we have a collection, i'll look through the Gecko patches and see if any of them are usable
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || they're going to turn off 1.9.1 soon-ish, which will make backports much harder

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Hopefully we can get 2.1 ready

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || indeed!
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || and on that note, the good news is that the autocomplete/location bar perf patchset seems to be picking up steam
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || :)

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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || yay

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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || so yay stuart!
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || i've got the new cert error page ready, I hope; that's in stuart's queue
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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || i've also been trying to rectify our malware diagnostic limited-access problem
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || because the solution we decided on for 2.0.x turned out not to be a good one
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || but right now I need some suggestions about getting SafeBrowsingAboutModule to have access to stuff that BrowserWrapper and BWC know :(
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585535
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || it may be beyond me to fix

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Yeah, that's in my queue

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || :)
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || Haven't heard from murph recently about gestures; i'll poke him again when we get a bit closer
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || in other news, cl has a working tree again, so hopefully when he's not flying at 4:30am, we can get him on some bugs ;)
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || And Chris Peterson, the guy who was one of the more regular commentors on my blog, is continuing to find and fix menu validation bugs
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || once we get an idea what he's comfortable with, maybe we can steer him towards some of the bugs on the 2.1 or 2.1? lists
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || though looking over them, none look like particularly friendly ones :(
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || i think that's all I have; anything else from either of you?

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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || nope
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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || anyway
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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || anything else today?
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| id="16:42" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:42 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || ok then
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| id="16:43" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:43 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | sauron: || everyone have a good week, and keep up the good work :)

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| id="16:43" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:43 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | pinkerton: || l8r
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