Status Meetings:2010-09-08:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* General Plans */ crashes

2010-09-08T06:04:27Z

General Plans: crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes?

2010-09-08T05:01:46Z

all but crashes?

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Wed 08 Sep 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Camino 2.0.4
** Released 2 weeks ago Thursday, after much tribulation
** Seems like more bizarre-user-problems than usual; maybe it's Mercury in retrograde?
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.4 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 849 (80.92%)  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.4 topcrashers by URL])
*** Top sites: facebook, youtube, google, airmp3.net, veetle.com
*** KeychainBrowserListener is top single crash; MakeKeyWindow entirely gone
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player}} (16%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (6%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (4%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (2%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (2%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|StartDraw}} (QuickTime) (2%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} (unknown bug) (1%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (1%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20TStyleRunArray::InsertStyleIntoRun(unsigned%20long%2C%20OpaqueATSUStyle*%2C%20unsigned%20long%2C%20unsigned%20long)}} (DivX; {{bug|551588}}) (1%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (1%)

* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 25 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Bad data + back-to-school makes analysis difficult of late
* [[Releases:2.0.5:Links|Camino 2.0.5]]
** phiw/ardissone/smorgan/bz got to bottom of old Google Calendar bug; smorgan has fix
** Importer-in-use redux; smorgan has fix in pink's queue
** {{bug|569258}} - bookmarks metadata madness
** {{bug|532186}} - can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list - hendy's been offline
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** about:certerror landed
** autocomplete perf - Stuart has WIP up; generally better
** Chris Peterson is continuing to find menu validation bugs and produce patches
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** Bizarre focus blackholes on some pages (Bugzilla, Google Code) - {{bug|576821}}, {{bug|577059}}
*** Gecko focus - {{bug|563321}} is main one of many; Stuart debugged some and landed hackaround last week
*** Nightly builds - {{bug|560323}} tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized, but nothing critical
*** No progress on 10.6 building (mozsqlite+friends) in a long time
** Alpha 1 - soon? One blocker left (perf) making progress, plus murph has a new patch, too
* Gecko 2.0 fka 1.9.3 - on ice
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve04 had 100ms Ts loss event a few months ago - {{bug|567813}}
* AppZapper
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** Only 1-2 blockers left for a1; some progress on those, some good debugging elsewhere

==Specific bugs that need action==

* Need hints from smorgan/murph on {{bug|585535}} - getting diagnostic URL into SafeBrowsingAboutModule
* Adding a "show cert" button to the technical details of about:certerror needs lots of plumbing
* Need test code for 10.5 AppKit menu changes (Cmd-=, alternates/NSEvents)

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|467851}} - Floating Tab Previews
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page
** {{Bug|391684}} - AppleScript: Closing browser window w/ multiple tabs prompts user
** {{Bug|286280}} - provide mechanism for resizing <select> lists
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (2) {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (22) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (22) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (789) {{greyText|['''+4''' since last meeting]}} '''need  another round of “CLOSEME”/UNCO'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-09-01&chfieldto=2010-09-08&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''3''') {{greyText|[-8 since last week]}} ('''1''' was 2.1-targeted; 1 was regression)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (7) {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}}  ''most old; cl owes ilya a review from Jan''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''5''') {{greyText|[+1 since last week]}}

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 ** Released 2 weeks ago Thursday, after much tribulation
 ** Seems like more bizarre-user-problems than usual; maybe it's Mercury in retrograde?
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.4 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 849 (80.92%) <!--(-108; still very high number of crashes) -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.4 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.4 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 2359 (71.68%) <!--(+1510; still very high number of crashes) -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.4 topcrashers by URL])
-*** Top sites: facebook, youtube, google, airmp3.net, veetle.com
+*** Top sites: facebook, youtube, google, caminobrowser.org, yahoo
-*** KeychainBrowserListener is top single crash; MakeKeyWindow entirely gone
+*** KeychainBrowserListener is top single crash
-*** #1 <!--137--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player}} (16%)
+*** #1 <!--321--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player}} (14%)
-*** #2 <!--50--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (6%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
+*** #2 <!--131--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (6%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
-*** #3 <!--33--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (4%)
+*** #3 <!--78--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player-10.6+}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|Flash%20Player-10.4+10.5}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (3%)
-*** #4 <!--19--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (2%)
+*** #4 <!--67--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (3%)
-*** #5 <!--17--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (2%)
+*** #5 <!--55--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (2%)
-*** #6 <!--15--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|StartDraw}} (QuickTime) (2%)
+*** #6 <!--48--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}}  / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #7 <!--12--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}}  / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} (unknown bug) (1%)
+*** #7 <!--22--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|StartDraw}} (QuickTime) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--11--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (1%)
+*** #8 <!--21--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|CFQSortArray}} (related to appshell/runloop) (1%)
-*** #9 <!--7--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20TStyleRunArray::InsertStyleIntoRun(unsigned%20long%2C%20OpaqueATSUStyle*%2C%20unsigned%20long%2C%20unsigned%20long)}} (DivX; {{bug|551588}}) (1%)
+*** #8 <!--21--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|libGLProgrammability.dylib@0x9cc8}} (called by Flash) (1%)
-*** #9 <!--7--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
+*** #10 <!--20--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*%2C%20nsString%26)}} (selection/IME, possibly {{bug|530939}}) (1%)
 <!--
 *** #8 <!- -50- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|_objc_error}} (unknown bug) (1%)
 *** #9 <!- -28- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSControl%20sendAction:to:%5d}} (unknown bug) (1%)