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==Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-09-29 15:19:07 -0400==

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| id="15:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:19 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.

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| id="15:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:19 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-09-29:Agenda".

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| id="16:06" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:06 || || style="color: #555;" | » David left the chat room.

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » cl joined the chat room.

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » cl was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || cl: want to have a meeting? :P

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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || sure, anything to talk about?
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || should probably look at the agenda :-p

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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh, i can ask you about the Address Book crashes
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || http://tinyurl.com/2cc7fhx
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i think it's probably all one guy
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || was wondering how Address Book can crash us, but I guess that's AddressBook.framework, not .app

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || looking
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || do we have any idea what "tyui" means? :-p

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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || gibberish?
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || they're all startup crashes

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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || oh, hrm, those letters are all in order on the keyboard, huh?

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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || mhm

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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || i agree with your theory of gibberish.
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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || yeah, my guess is the framework is crashing and this guy either has a corrupted address book or a corrupted OS
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || because that's dying LOOOOONG after we pass off code to the framework

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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || mhm
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || you know, it would really be nice if Apple could figure out a way to prevent crashes from crossing framework boundaries :P

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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || and i sort of doubt there's anything we can do to protect against it
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || do we have an e-mail for him?

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || lemme try to see

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || would i be correct in guessing that all five of these crashes are basically the same?

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || y

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || at least we've got full symbols on the AB framework

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || nope, no email

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || might not hurt to file a radar on this
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || shoot

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yeah, if we had a clue what was happening :(
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and had the objc selector messages that the Apple crash reports provide :/
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || let's see
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || you were here last night for the focus bugs
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and for ilya volunteering to help with reviews

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || yeah, i caught all that in scrollback at 4 this morning

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so if you get a second one from cpeterso, feel free to hand it off to ilya

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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || k, i'm gonna try to get caught up on that tomorrow

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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || he cancelled that second patch because it's buggy

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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || i'm working sat/sun and then again tues-fri
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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || yeah, saw that

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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || slow week

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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || mhm

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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we got nathan bailey applying patches right

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || saw that, too :)

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || phiw's been working on tracking down possible regression ranges for these focus bugs

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || (I was there, remember? ;)

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yes

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || yeah, looks like he found one for the nasty one, whcih is good

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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but not all log readers were ;)
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh, he did
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ?
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i missed that :(
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i've mostly been working on the Gecko stuff that will let us get our changeset in about:buildconfig

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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || Yeah, this afternoon, I think

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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and fixing about:buildconfig on the trunk :P
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || yay

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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || yeah, the checkin for bug 563321

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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh :(
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that's not good
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that means we really need a gecko fix :/
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || which is not going to happen with everyone underwater on fx4 blockers :(

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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || yeah, looks that way

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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || suck suck

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| id="16:33" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:33 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || the good news is at least we know a workaround :-p

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| id="16:33" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:33 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :P

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| id="16:33" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:33 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || and it doesn't happen on all form fields, just some of them :-p

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| id="16:33" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:33 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || which makes it all the more confusing to users
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || !clone smorgan
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || !clone pink
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || !clone mento!
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyway, that's all i've go
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || *t

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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || !clone neil-and-smaug

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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that, too
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || crahes are holding lower again this week
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but given that 80% of the 2.1a1pre crahes are missing
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i'm not sure I can trust the 2.0.4 numbers
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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyway, that's it for this week
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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || reviews, reviews, patches! ;)
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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :P

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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || good job, meeting team
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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | cl: || high-fives ardissone

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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || high-fives cl back :P
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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || now, where are those meeting-cheerleaders to end in a rah-rah-rah?
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