Status Meetings:2010-11-03:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* Current Release */ ugh, crashes

2010-11-03T06:24:04Z

Current Release: ugh, crashes

Sardisson: all but crashes?

2010-11-03T05:46:31Z

all but crashes?

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Wed 3 Nov 1pm PDT (20:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
===Current Release===
* Camino 2.0.5
** Released last Tuesday
** Aside from new JEP ({{bug|607678}}), haven't heard of any real issues
*** julian complained about autocomplete not working, but wasn't around for troubleshooting
** flash-check having some early positive effect, says smorgan
*** Last week: "So this is not very clean data, but: for Camino 2.0 users visiting cb.o, on Monday Flash 10.1r85 was #2 with 30%. Yesterday it was #1 with 36%. Today, so far, it's 39%"<br>Flash 10.0->10.1 upgrades: "The old #1 and new #2 is 10.0r45"
*** Also heard some comments about it in the forum and on twitter
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.5 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 36  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.5 topcrashers by URL])
*** Top sites: 
*** KeychainBrowserListener is top crash; Flash 10.1 crashes outrunning Flash 10.0 crashes
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (22%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (19%)
*** #3  is 1Passwd hacking our toolbar ({{bug|413534}}) (11%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (8%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.5|Flash%20Player}} (6%)

** For some reason, lots of "corrupt" stacks with -[BrowserWrapper removeTransientBar:display:] showing up below _start and start!

===Other Releases===
* Camino 1.6.11
** Released 33 weeks ago Monday; EOL for 1.6.x
** Google Docs spreadsheet limits makes analysis difficult any more
* [[Releases:2.0.6:Links|Camino 2.0.6]]
** KeychainBrowserListener - Stuart will return after a1
** Security fixes
** {{bug|569258}} - bookmarks metadata madness - Stuart has partial patch
** {{bug|604582}} - completed downloads with no content-length appear broken - might want to take if it seems safe
** {{bug|532186}} - can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list - hendy's been offline
** Death-by-Flash-logging {{bug|541897}}; philippe found that drawing models did cause this
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** autocomplete perf - Stuart landing pieces and posting new WIPs; generally better, but also uncovering bugs in history
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** 10.4 Ts regression due to Gecko: {{bug|604455}} - masayuki has alternate fix for us to test
*** Gecko focus/blackholes - new meta filed ({{bug|600483}}); more bugs appearing: {{bug|576821}}, {{bug|577059}}, {{bug|600187}}, {{bug|581491}}
*** Nightly builds - {{bug|560323}} tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized, but nothing critical
*** No progress on patch-free 10.6 building (mozsqlite+friends) in a long time; WierdAl put up a non-working patch last week-end
** Alpha 1 - any clearer on dates?
* Gecko 2.0 fka 1.9.3 - on ice

===Other Items===
* Tinderboxen
* Server migration
** Coming sometime this month; will hopefully unblock most of the current pressing website bugs
* AppZapper
** Sam mailed them again list week
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** r/sr queues both in dire shape; almost no movement in the past two weeks in part due to stuck queues
** pinged pink, hendy, and ilya about queues, murph about gestures

===Specific bugs that need action===

* Upgrade to Flashblock 1.5.14 ({{bug|604477}}) is going to require some small code changes
* New "[[Development:Reviewing#Helpful_Tips_for_New_Reviewers|Tips for New Reviewers]]" section of the [[Development:Reviewing]] page - all reviewers welcome to edit, comment in {{bug|604584}}, or ping ardissone to help improve the document, especially "What to Look For" section
* Need hints from smorgan/murph on {{bug|585535}} - getting diagnostic URL into SafeBrowsingAboutModule
* Adding a "show cert" button to the technical details of about:certerror needs lots of plumbing
* Need test code for 10.5 AppKit menu changes (Cmd-=, alternates/NSEvents)

* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other bugs (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page (moved to Core, might be coming back)
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (3) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (21) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (27) {{greyText|[+1 since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (772) {{greyText|['''+6''' since last meeting]}} '''need to ready another  round of “CLOSEME”/UNCOs'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-10-27&chfieldto=2010-11-03&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''1''') {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} ('''0''' were 2.1-targeted; 1 was website)

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (16) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  ''a few really old; cl owes ilya a review from Jan; 2 are Reviewing Tips docs, but most are current''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''9''') {{greyText|[+2 since last week]}} ''one is Reviewing Tips docs''

@@ Line 10: / Line 10: @@
 *** Last week: "So this is not very clean data, but: for Camino 2.0 users visiting cb.o, on Monday Flash 10.1r85 was #2 with 30%. Yesterday it was #1 with 36%. Today, so far, it's 39%"<br>Flash 10.0->10.1 upgrades: "The old #1 and new #2 is 10.0r45"
 *** Also heard some comments about it in the forum and on twitter
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.5 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 36 <!-- 3980 (72.96%) (+314; still climbing) -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.5 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.5 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 1504 (79.39%) (currently running lower than 2.0.4, assuming 2x) -->  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.5 topcrashers by URL])
-*** Top sites: <!-- facebook, tinychat, caminobrowser.org, google, youtube, gmail -->
+*** Top sites: facebook, caminobrowser.org, google, youtube, AOL, gmail
-*** KeychainBrowserListener is top crash; Flash 10.1 crashes outrunning Flash 10.0 crashes
+**** cbo is mostly assorted font stuff, assorted layout stuff, 1 KBL
-*** #1 <!--8--> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} (22%) - {{bug|512730}} didn't help
+*** KeychainBrowserListener is top crash; Flash 10.1 crashes still slightly outrunning Flash 10.0 crashes
-*** #2 <!--7--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (19%)
+*** #1 <!--207--> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%fillDOMWindow:%5d}} (14%) - {{bug|512730}}
-*** #3 <!--4--> is 1Passwd hacking our toolbar ({{bug|413534}}) (11%)
+*** #2 <!--147--> is {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (10%)
-*** #4 <!--3--> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (8%)
+*** #3 <!--143--> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|Flash%20Player}} (10%)
-*** #5 <!--2--> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|Flash%20Player}} (6%)
+*** #4 <!--63--> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5edb}} (unknown bug) (4%)
 <!--
-*** #4 <!- -132- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} / {{BPsig|2.0.4|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5edb}} (unknown bug) (3%)
 *** #6 <!- -63- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|HashString(nsAString_internal%20const%26)}} ({{bug|458645}}) (2%)
 *** #8 <!- -40- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|Foundation@0x41548}} (10.4.11 _NSRaiseError; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
 *** #10 <!- -33- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|nsQueryContentEventHandler::GenerateFlatTextContent(nsIRange*%2C%20nsString%26)}} (selection/IME; {{bug|530939}}) (1%)
 <!- -
 *** #9 <!- -30- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
 *** #9 <!- -27 - -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (1%)
 *** #7 <!- -22- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.5|StartDraw}} (QuickTime) (1%)
@@ Line 52: / Line 53: @@
   -->
 ** For some reason, lots of "corrupt" stacks with -[BrowserWrapper removeTransientBar:display:] showing up below _start and start!
 ===Other Releases===