Sardisson: grr, stupid |

2010-12-08T21:54:55Z

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2010-12-08T21:53:19Z

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==Log from #camino-mtg starting 2010-12-08 15:28:13 -0500==

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| id="15:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:28 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone was promoted to operator by ChanServ.

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| id="15:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:28 || || style="color: #555;" | » ardissone changed the topic to "http://wiki.caminobrowser.org/Status_Meetings:2010-12-08:Agenda".

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| id="15:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 15:28 || || style="color: #555;" | » cl was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan joined the chat room.

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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: any pink?

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| id="16:05" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:05 || || style="color: #555;" | » smorgan was promoted to operator by ardissone.

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| id="16:07" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:07 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || pinged

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » mib_cc68cz joined the chat room.

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| id="16:09" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:09 || || style="color: #555;" | » mib_cc68cz left the chat room.

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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || no pink

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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :(
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| id="16:10" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:10 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we can't chastise him about the HDS review request hitting the 1 month mark :( :P
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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || First up, meeting the rest of the month

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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || You can chastise me double for no focus progress if that will help

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| id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || haha
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || HDS is s a bigger blocker, though :|
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i assume we'll meet as normal next week

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || I'll be here

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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but then the next two Wednesdays are the 22nd and the 29th
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| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || not immediately adjacent to the holidays
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| id="16:13" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:13 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || shall we plan on meeting, and check in again next week to see if they still look good?
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || has not even started thinking that far ahead :P
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || On 2.0.6
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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I dfigured out part of the crash-count discrepancy

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || (I'll be flying those days)

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| id="16:14" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:14 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so that sounds like probably a no for meetings, then
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| id="16:15" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:15 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || unless we have a sudden infusion of missing people returning
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :P
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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || crash-stats silently changed the default view from 14d to 7d :P

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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || haha

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| id="16:16" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:16 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || however, even with that, we're still running ~50% of what we were seeing before
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || (that is, when I switch back to 14d)
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so that's awesome
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || Usage is holding steady, too
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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so unless people have stopped reporting crashes, we're 50% less crashy!

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| id="16:17" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:17 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Yay!

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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we obviously took some fixes, but I hope getting people to newer, less crashy Flash has helped
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| id="16:18" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:18 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || e.g., Flash 10.1 is only ~12% of crashes, whereas Flash 10 used to be 20-25%
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: this is also the point in the program where I ask how our Flash stats are this week ;)
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| id="16:19" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:19 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || other good crash news: no new LastPass-related crashes

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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Checking...

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| id="16:20" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:20 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || the bad news, of course, is that KBL is still pretty huge
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || it's a little under-reported right now because we have these libobjc.A.dylibs that aren't getting resymbolized (10.6.4, 10.6.5)
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| id="16:21" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:21 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || which is continually frustrating
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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but not as frustrating as the actual crash is to users :P

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| id="16:22" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:22 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || 2.0 overall: 53% latest, 20% latest-1
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || 2.0.6: 82% latest, 7% latest-1
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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Oh wait, I didn't time restrict

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| id="16:23" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:23 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ah, beccause I think both of those are down some from last week

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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || Yesterday it's 71%/10.5% and 84.5%/7%
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || For 2.0.6 the next biggest version is only 1.5% :)

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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so some progress on 2.0 overall, and about the same for 2.0.6
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| id="16:24" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:24 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || :)
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| id="16:25" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:25 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || also while we're on Flash, yesterday we removed the file descriptor increase, so all you laggards on Flash 9, you're going to start dying again :P
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| id="16:26" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:26 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anything else on 2.0.6?
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I think this is going to be the last week for the 1.6.11 item on the agenda
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| id="16:27" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:27 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and end-of-the-line for our ability to use Google Docs to track things
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| id="16:28" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:28 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || conveniently, i was offered the survey again the other night when i was inputting data
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| id="16:29" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:29 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || I don't have anything new on 2.0.7; we're sort-of waiting until after a1 when Stuart can return to the evil that is the KBL crash
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| id="16:30" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:30 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on 2.1
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || there's not really much new to report, i don't think
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || waiting on pink
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| id="16:31" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:31 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || for srs
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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || all but 1 of the r queue has been waiting for more than a month :(
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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i pinged hendy again the other day and haven't heard back at all
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| id="16:32" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:32 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so i'll talk to ilya and see if he can take those reviews
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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || smorgan: your remaining srs should be trivial, fwiw; look at some pictures and some capitalization synchronization

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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || k

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| id="16:34" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:34 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || not that they're significant progress, but they'll be not sitting ;)
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| id="16:35" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:35 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anything else on 2.1?
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| id="16:36" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:36 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ss: anything new from AppZapper?

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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || Nothing, no.
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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || It may appear they ignored my email.

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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || heh

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| id="16:37" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:37 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || I mean, if I had to guess.

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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || since it didn't come with NASTY LEGAL THREATS

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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || It could, but I was hoping it wouldn't have to.

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| id="16:38" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:38 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || right
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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || on the Server Migration front, we're still sitting in place :P
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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || we haven't heard from them since we posted new issues on Thursday

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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || (But our side of things are basically done.)
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| id="16:39" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:39 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || s/are/is

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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || right
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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || it's unclear if they're going to shut down tomorrow, but I certainly hope not, since we haven't heard from them :P
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| id="16:40" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:40 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || so we continue to wait
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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || just as we continue to wait for IT to investigate what happened to cb-xserve01

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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || I highly doubt they'll shut down without migrating us.
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| id="16:41" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:41 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || They're pretty reasonable.

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| id="16:42" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:42 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || there have been no Cm2 nightlies since last Thursday
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| id="16:42" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:42 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || since nothing's landing, that's not a problem

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| id="16:42" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:42 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ss: || Up the priority?

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| id="16:43" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:43 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || worst-case, we turn them on on cb-x4 when we're ready to start landing stuff
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| id="16:44" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:44 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || but obviously i'd prefer not to switch build OS, and not to lose our only 10.4 box
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| id="16:44" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:44 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || oh
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| id="16:45" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:45 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || cl: anything to report on your end?
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| id="16:46" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:46 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i've made some progress with my view-source fix; i have some questions for stuart yet
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| id="16:47" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:47 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || that's mostly what I've been working on, in addition to more bashing-head-into-walls over the autocomplete window bugs i hate
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| id="16:48" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:48 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || and i guess that's about it; we're in the holiday season/North American cold season, so it's slow
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| id="16:48" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:48 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || hopefully we can continue moving, if slowly, through this month
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| id="16:48" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:48 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || anyone have anything else today?

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| id="16:49" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:49 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | smorgan: || doesn't

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| id="16:50" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:50 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || ok then
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| id="16:50" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:50 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || everyone please work on 2.1/a1 bugs/reviews, and have a good week! :)
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 | id="16:11" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:11 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || haha
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-| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || HDS is s a bigger blocker, though :|
+| id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || HDS is s a bigger blocker, though :<nowiki>|</nowiki>
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 | id="16:12" style="color: #555; font-size: 80%; vertical-align: top;" | 16:12 || style="font-weight: bold; color: firebrick; text-align: right; vertical-align: top;" | ardissone: || i assume we'll meet as normal next week

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