Status Meetings:2010-12-15:Agenda - Revision history

Sardisson: /* Current Release */ crashes away!

2010-12-15T06:36:58Z

Current Release: crashes away!

Sardisson: all but crashes, I think

2010-12-15T05:47:03Z

all but crashes, I think

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Wed 15 Dec 1pm PST (21:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

==General Plans==
* Last meeting of the year; happy holidays and safe travels!
===Current Release===
* Camino 2.0.6
** Released 4 weeks ago Tuesday
** flash-check results have been positive; not-up-to-date browsers still lagging 2.0.6
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.6 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 1778 (74.24%) (currently running ~ 50% of 2.0.4) (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.6 topcrashers by URL])
*** crash-stats switched default view's date range, but even same date range is lower/~50% of 2.0.4
*** Top sites: facebook, google, yahoo, youtube, caminobrowser.org
*** KeychainBrowserListener is top crash; Flash 10.0 is greatly diminished
*** #1  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (12%)
*** #2  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%fillDOMWindow:%5d}} (7%) - {{bug|512730}}
*** #3  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5edb}} (unknown bug) (4%)
*** #4  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|Flash%20Player}} (3%)
*** #5  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (3%)
*** #6  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (2%)
*** #7  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
*** #8  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|gmtsub}} (libSystem.B; related to libcrypto+Flash) (1%)
*** #9  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
*** #10  is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (1%)


** No new LastPass-related crashes this week

===Other Releases===
* [[Releases:2.0.7:Links|Camino 2.0.7]]
** KeychainBrowserListener - Stuart will return after a1
** Flashblock upgrade (see [[#Specific bugs that need action|Specific bugs that need action]] below)
** Security fixes
** "new JEP regression" fix
** {{bug|532186}} - can't paste URLs into Flash exceptions list - hendy's been offline
** Have new "Profile Startup" bug ({{bug|556428}}) covering about year+ of Ts regressions
* [[Development:Planning:Camino 2.1|Camino 2.1]]
** Most of the items from the list have been twiddled to reflect state, plus editorial comments
** autocomplete perf - Stuart landing pieces and posting new WIPs; generally better, but also uncovering bugs in history
** Gecko 1.9.2 update - ([[User:Sardisson/Gecko_1.9.2_Bugs|tracking for bugs+issues]]; mostly filed, but need to get focus-related bugs filed)
*** Gecko focus/blackholes - new meta filed ({{bug|600483}}); more bugs appearing: {{bug|576821}}, {{bug|577059}}, {{bug|600187}}, {{bug|581491}}
*** Nightly builds - {{bug|560323}} tracking some nightly-related things still needing to be finalized, but nothing critical
*** No progress on patch-free 10.6 building (mozsqlite+friends) in a long time; WierdAl put up a non-working patch last week-end
** Alpha 1 - any clearer on dates?
* Gecko 2.0 fka 1.9.3 - on ice

===Other Items===
* Tinderboxen
** cb-xserve01 went perma-yellow two weeks ago; IT finally rebooted, but it hung again (fs fried) so needs to be reimaged - {{bug|616407}}
* Server migration
** Happened Sunday afternoon/evening; by Monday afternoon everything was workable
** Sam/Smokey still recovering ;)
** See {{bug|611573}} for all the things it fixed
** A few bugs filed so far ({{bug|619189}}, {{bug|619195}}); please file new bugs for any issues you see
* AppZapper
** Sam hasn't heard back yet from his last missive
* Weekly Bugs and Queues update
** r getting worse again; UNCOs need a cleanup. sr request on HDS a month old (rest are only 1-2 weeks); all r requests but 1 older than a month.
** hendy says hello, plans to see us in the new year.

===Specific bugs that need action===

* Upgrade to Flashblock 1.5.14 ({{bug|604477}}) is going to require some small code changes
* New "[[Development:Reviewing#Helpful_Tips_for_New_Reviewers|Tips for New Reviewers]]" section of the [[Development:Reviewing]] page - all reviewers welcome to edit, comment in {{bug|604584}}, or ping ardissone to help improve the document, especially "What to Look For" section
* Need hints from smorgan/murph on {{bug|585535}} - getting diagnostic URL into SafeBrowsingAboutModule
* Adding a "show cert" button to the technical details of about:certerror needs lots of plumbing
* Need test code for 10.5 AppKit menu changes (Cmd-=, alternates/NSEvents)
* CBSamplePane - awaiting reviews

===Other bugs (if there's time)===

* 10.5 Visual UX
** App icon lines - {{bug|402967}}
* UNCOs
** {{bug|549280}} - Show bookmark name in Bookmark Bar context menu
** {{Bug|458427}} - Data detectors for dates/times for iCal integration
** {{Bug|404515}} - Found items (as result of Find command) are hard to distinguish in the page (moved to Core, might be coming back)
** {{Bug|386574}} - Close tab too close to favicon causing drag'n'drop problems (specifically, does Stuart have any further commentary on the first part of comment 4?)
** {{Bug|381295}} - Change tab scroll-to-view behavior to provide context

==Queries==

===Camino 2.1a1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%3F Blocking ?] (4) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1%2B Blocking +] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1a1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

===Camino 2.1===

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.1] (20) {{greyText|[-1 since last meeting]}}  ''has most of the 2.1 planning bugs and most essential Gecko 1.9.2-related bugs now''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%3F Blocking ?] (27) {{greyText|[unchanged since last meeting]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1%2B Blocking +] (1) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.1- Blocking -] (0) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}} 

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=---&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs without target] (782) {{greyText|['''-1''' since last meeting]}} '''need to ready another  round of “CLOSEME”/UNCOs'''

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&resolution=FIXED&resolution=---&chfieldfrom=2010-12-08&chfieldto=2010-12-15&chfield=resolution&chfieldvalue=FIXED Bugs fixed since last meeting] ('''7''') {{greyText|[+6 since last week]}} ('''1''' was 2.1-targeted; 4 were website )

==Queues==

* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=review&group=type Review] (12) {{greyText|[unchanged since last week]}}  ''a few really old; everything but 1 has been sitting for more than a month''
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=Camino&type=superreview&group=type Superreview] ('''4''') {{greyText|[-1 since last week]}}

@@ Line 7: / Line 7: @@
 ** Released 4 weeks ago Tuesday
 ** flash-check results have been positive; not-up-to-date browsers still lagging 2.0.6
-** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.6 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 1778 (74.24%) (currently running ~ 50% of 2.0.4)  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.6 topcrashers by URL])
+** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byversion/Camino/2.0.6/14 Breakpad] topcrash report for the last 2 weeks - 2693 (72.63%) (+915)  (Also: [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrasher/byurl/Camino/2.0.6 topcrashers by URL])
-*** crash-stats switched default view's date range, but even same date range is lower/~50% of 2.0.4
+*** back to about average crashiness; only 6% of the increase was KBL; 13% was Flash 10.1
-*** Top sites: facebook, google, yahoo, youtube, caminobrowser.org
+*** Top sites: facebook, google, youtube, omegle, yahoo, caminobrowser.org
 *** KeychainBrowserListener is top crash; Flash 10.0 is greatly diminished
-*** #1 <!--220--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (12%)
+*** #1 <!--346--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|FlashPlayer-10.6}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|FlashPlayer-10.4-10.5}} (13%)
-*** #2 <!--130--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%fillDOMWindow:%5d}} (7%) - {{bug|512730}}
+*** #2 <!--195--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%20onLoadingCompleted:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bKeychainBrowserListener%fillDOMWindow:%5d}} (7%) - {{bug|512730}}
-*** #3 <!--78--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5edb}} (unknown bug) (4%)
+*** #3 <!--112--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSApplication%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5ed7}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|libobjc.A.dylib@0x5edb}} (unknown bug) (4%)
-*** #4 <!--56--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|Flash%20Player}} (3%)
+*** #4 <!--58--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (2%)
-*** #5 <!--45--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20-%5bNSWindow%20sendEvent:%5d}} / {{BPsig|2.0.6|AppKit@0x6412c}} (unknown bug) (3%)
+*** #5 <!--55--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|Flash%20Player}} (3%)
-*** #6 <!--28--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (2%)
+*** #6 <!--41--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|pthread_mutex_lock}} (related to Veetle and Move-Media-Player) (2%)
-*** #7 <!--23--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
+*** #7 <!--33--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|gmtsub}} (libSystem.B; related to libcrypto+Flash) (1%)
-*** #8 <!--20--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|gmtsub}} (libSystem.B; related to libcrypto+Flash) (1%)
+*** #8 <!--31--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20Foundation@0x50ebf}} (10.4.11 -[NSException raise]; assorted unknown exceptions) (1%)
-*** #9 <!--20--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
+*** #9 <!--29--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20_nsnote_callback}} (mostly related to closing windows with a mouse) (1%)
-*** #10 <!--18--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (1%)
+*** #9 <!--29--> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSendSuper%20%7c%20AppKit@0x46c44}} (10.4.11 PPC via [http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/widget/src/cocoa/nsChildView.mm&rev=1.371.10.1&mark=1548#1548 nsChildView::Update], mostly on eBay and Yahoo!Mail) (1%)
 <!--
-*** #6 <!- -19- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSendSuper%20%7c%20AppKit@0x46c44}} (10.4.11 PPC via [http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsblame.cgi?file=mozilla/widget/src/cocoa/nsChildView.mm&rev=1.371.10.1&mark=1548#1548 nsChildView::Update]) (1%)
+*** #10 <!- -18- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSend%20%7c%20IdleTimerVector}} (Divx+WebKit+autorelease pools; see {{bug|509130}} and its regressions for the gory story) (1%)
 *** #10 <!- -15- -> is {{BPsig|2.0.6|CFBasicHashReplaceValue}} (Sonix SN9C201 WebCam on secondary thread) (1%)
@@ Line 55: / Line 56: @@
 ** 10.4.11 PPC crashes in {{BPsig|2.0.6|objc_msgSendSuper%20%7c%20%252B%5bCHSelectPopupDisplayer%20showNativePopupMenuAsynchronouslyForSelect:%5d}}
 -->
-** No new LastPass-related crashes this week
+** No new LastPass-related crashes again this week
 ===Other Releases===