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** Released four Tuesdays ago
 
** Released four Tuesdays ago
 
** ML update released on 2 weeks ago
 
** ML update released on 2 weeks ago
** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM161/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=500 all 1.6.1 crashes]—677 so far)
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** [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/reports/camino/CM161/index.html Talkback] ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=stack&rlimit=2000 all 1.6.1 crashes] — >1000 so far)
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*** #1 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib.88.1.11&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib]
*** #1 is Flash
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**** RealPlayer on 10.4.11; also a couple comments blaming Google Desktop
*** #2 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libSystem.B.dylib.88.1.11&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libSystem.B.dylib] (Real, other plug-ins, odd Camino code)
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*** #2 is Flash
*** #3 is Core crash-on-quit
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*** #3 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libobjc]
*** #4 is [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/talkback/fastfind.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid libobjc]
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**** 46387901 46195237 finger keychain code; a few others look like 1passwd; some random Camino code
*** #5/6 are random hex ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=0xfffeff20&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid 0xfffeff20]/[http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=0xfffeff18&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid 0xfffeff18])--><!--; random stacks-->
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*** #4 is Core crash-on-quit
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*** #5/7 are CoreFoundation
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**** ProgressViewController; other random Camino code; also some crashes on startup
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<!--*** #5/6 are random hex ([http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=0xfffeff20&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid 0xfffeff20]/[http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=1&searchby=stacksig&match=contains&searchfor=0xfffeff18&vendor=MozillaOrg&product=Camino16&platform=MacOSX&buildid=2008051211&sdate=&stime=&edate=&etime=&sortby=bbid 0xfffeff18])--><!--; random stacks-->
 
<!--**** at least 3 look like variations on {{bug|415362}} on 10.3.9 :( [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=44220012 TB44220012x] (need to get contact info)
 
<!--**** at least 3 look like variations on {{bug|415362}} on 10.3.9 :( [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=44220012 TB44220012x] (need to get contact info)
 
**** 6 look like variations on the old 1passwd crash [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=44260242 TB44260242x] -->
 
**** 6 look like variations on the old 1passwd crash [http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/search/start.jsp?search=2&type=iid&id=44260242 TB44260242x] -->
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===Camino 2.0===
 
===Camino 2.0===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0]  (47) {{greyText|[unchanged<!--+1 since last week-->]}} <!-- -->
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* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time Bugs targeted at 2.0]  (46) {{greyText|[-1 since two weeks ago]}} <!-- -->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?]  (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%3F  Blocking ?]  (3) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation) <!--  (subtract FIXED here, except when only FIXED on trunk -->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&cmdtype=doit&order=Last+Changed&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=camino2.0%2B  Blocking +]  (0) {{greyText|[unchanged]}} <!-- (but [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=Camino&target_milestone=Camino2.0&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&chfieldto=Now P1 bugs]—currently just tab dragging—are blocking) subtract FIXED here-->

Latest revision as of 20:06, 17 June 2008

Wed 18 Jun 9am PDT (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

  • Camino 1.6.1
    • Released four Tuesdays ago
    • ML update released on 2 weeks ago
    • Talkback (all 1.6.1 crashes — >1000 so far)
      • #1 is libSystem.B.dylib
        • RealPlayer on 10.4.11; also a couple comments blaming Google Desktop
      • #2 is Flash
      • #3 is libobjc
        • 46387901 46195237 finger keychain code; a few others look like 1passwd; some random Camino code
      • #4 is Core crash-on-quit
      • #5/7 are CoreFoundation
        • ProgressViewController; other random Camino code; also some crashes on startup
    • Load was pretty heavy on the server, but things held up better. We didn't use the dynamic feed generator since Sam is out of the office this week and couldn't be there to reboot. Load on website is still uneven; Sam working with sysadmin friend this week.
    • Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
    • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
  • Camino 1.6.2
    • Gecko 1.8.1.15 frozen; release set for June 24
    • We have a couple of bugs to take; need to get them landed on branch (blocked on tinderbox)
  • Camino 2.0
    • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
    • Stuart's started triaging the 2.0 list (3 criteria: regressions, make life better now, someone working on it)
    • Stuart has started on the regressions
    • Cocoa Widget "fixes" are making life pretty rough
    • Anti-phishing patch posted; new version needed. Follow up bugs include adding preferences UI, using a (perhaps more generalized) notification bar after the warning page has been ignored, and manually adding test URLs to the database.
    • Tabsposé update
    • Tab dragging?
  • Meet-up
    • Sam will blog and post minutes sometime
  • Tinderboxen
    • cb-x1 is dying (offline over the weekend, hanging, etc. now; IT looking) - Bug 435927
      • will try to bring up a couple of our minis to restore trunk and branch builds
      • may be ready to re-set-up soon?
    • cb-minimaya producing "trunk" builds (5 hr clobber); switching to branch "soon"
    • cb-minibinus producing "2.0-M1.9" builds (4 hr clobber)
    • boxset stopped reporting to tinderbox ten Thurs ago; Sam working on new mail server - Bug 425138
    • something's wrong (with Ts) on cb-xserve01; reboot didn't help - Bug 421031
      • this happened again last week; we got it back to 421031 levels, but not pre-421031 levels
    • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
  • Dev docs
    • cl rev'ed CBSamplePane and docs recently, but needs fixes - (Bug 384800
    • Can we get a quick list of some examples in our code (mxr links) of various ways of
      • Calling private APIs
      • Writing safe code for latest-OS-only features
      Add here; we're getting more patches wanting to do these things, so even if "the" solution cannot be prescribed, examples of various situations and techniques will help
  • Weekly Bugs and Queues update
    • r queue starting to get full again; also, 2.0 lists unchanged for several weeks.

Specific bugs that need action

2.0a1pre

  • See 2.0a1? list
  • Cocoa widgets still pretty scary; there are a number of regressions we'll be stuck with
  • Security UI cleanup

1.6.2

  • More toolbar icons coming?
  • Several bugs to land once we have build coverage

Other (if there's time)

  • xpfe cleanup
    • Bug 383085 has a patch to remove a number of xpfe directories
    • stefanh has a "build finishes, crashes on startup" MOZ_XUL_APP patch
      [4:16pm] stefanh: "<Standard8>stefanh, so, my guess is you need to implement something like http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/suite/app/ (nsSuiteApp.cpp, application.ini, Makefile.in) somewhere in camino"
      [4:16pm] stefanh: "stefanh, when you flip the flags, the main things that'll affect you immediately are the startup code, command line handlers and possibly alerts
      [4:16pm] stefanh: stefanh, so xpfe/components/startup/ -> toolkit/components/commandlines toolkit/components/startup etc"
      [4:17pm] stefanh: ardissone|ish: feel free to play with the code :P

Queries

Camino 2.0a1

Camino 2.0

Queues