Status Meetings:2008-12-17:Agenda

Wed 17 Dec 9am PST (17:00 GMT/UTC) in #camino-mtg

General Plans

• Meeting schedule
  • Are we meeting the rest of the month (Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve)?
• Camino 2.0a1
  • Released eight weeks ago
  • Talkback broken here, too (all 2.0a1 crashes — 123 so far, were adding ≈30/week, now 30 over past 3 weeks; low?)
    • #1 (28) is 0xfffeff20 (printing, youtube, 7 are Bug 458961 - Core 10.4 topcrash; 4 of those are triggered by Tabsposé)
    • #2 (19) is Cocoa.12.0.0 (startup crash; TB50869706x is sample)
    • #3 (12) is libobjc.A.dylib.227.0.0
    • #4 (9) is Flash
    • #5 (8) is nsObjCExceptionLogAbort (5 are probably Bug 458961)
    • #6 (8) Core crash-on-quit
    • #7 (7) is libSystem.B.dylib.111.0.0 (5 are Bug 458961 on 10.5.0b5)
    • Also, 10 stacks that are all OS frameworks with swizzling (TB50702043x, TB50686087x, TB50604116x, TB51231297x, TB51364670x, TB51364617x,TB51603710x (new), TB51734972x (new), TB51492114x (new), TB51491925x (new))
    • Crashes in the appshell - TB51536447x, TB51620463x
• Camino 1.6.6
  • Released yesterday
  • Talkback is broken; waiting on MoCo, w/no ETA (all 1.6.6 crashes )
  • Cleaning up stuff from the website; file bugs against Product Site if you see anything.
  • Need to be more diligent about asking about IMs up-front: "I have problem x" "Do you have any input managers installed (e.g., 1Password)?" (We'll have to specifically mention 1Password, since people mostly don't know how it's implemented)
  • Be very careful asking people to test trunk nightlies, since they do irreversible profile damage.
• Camino 1.6.7
  • Officially Gecko is done, but more releases are possible
  • We didn't declare 1.6.6 EOL (no stable release yet)
  • One major bug in search plugins on 10.3 - Bug 469236
• Camino 2.0
  • Rough scoping doc at Development:Planning:Camino 2.0
    • Retriaging 2.0 list; smorgan and ardissone alternate weeks
    • Anything with l10n impact should be nominated for b2 and add l10n to the whiteboard
    • Still a number of serious bugs in Widget:Cocoa needing Core investigation or fixes - Bug 458205
  • Anti-phishing - can't get permission :(
  • Keyboard loop - Fixed a dozen old bugs, spawned about half-dozen new ones
  • Security exceptions - at least one follow-up needed for 2.0, but Core code is broken
  • Tabsposé - need to decide on what must be fixed for 2.0 (focus loss on close, keyboard access? WF the single-tab bug?)
  • Tab dragging - scroll dragging?
  • Fullscreen -
  • Icon work for 2.0 - philippe working on ideas for zoom icons (need decision here - Bug 450542); Sam promised updates months ago
  • breakpad - smorgan writing the reporter client
  • Gecko strings l10n - no .dtd solution yet; .properties landed (some don't work; see User:Sardisson/Localizing Gecko Strings)
  • Flashblock whitelist - Landed; thanks batwood!
  • Growl - waiting on reviews of blocking bugs?
  • What's left for 2.0b1 (blocking a build)?
    • Nasty UE bugs (minus them?)
    • Relnotes
  • Build end-of-week, release Tues?
• Tinderboxen
  • boxset - currently tracking Tp regression due to NSPR upgrade Bug 465212 - need ss did a backout for wtc, confirmed the cause, but the new code is correct, so regression will probably stay; new test to try for bz
    • had a 2+% Ts regression while it was down while Sam was in Thailand
  • What should we do with cb-minimaya01? Needs HD repair
  • cb-x1 still reporting with truncated hostname; also, starting to die again Bug 458217
  • cb-minimaya running "1.6-M1.8" Ts (65 min dep)
  • cb-minibinus running "2.0-M1.9" Ts (45 min dep)
  • PPC minis need weekly reboots to keep running
  • cb-miniosx01 has Ts disabled due to paging/low installed RAM
• Dev docs
  • CBSamplePane: can now build branch-compatible pane using trunk files; cl needs to address review comments
  • Development:Reviewing split code style, patch preparation, etc. into Development:Coding
  • need mento to verify the scp commands for staging
• Weekly Bugs and Queues update
  • r queue still high

Specific bugs that need action

2.0b1pre

• See 2.0b1? list
• Still a number of regressions we'll be stuck with

Other (if there's time)

• 10.5 Visual UX
  • Bookmark bar - Bug 401340
  • Tab bar
  • Toolbar icons - Bug 384725
    • We have a designer working on polishing; need updates from Sam
  • App icon lines - Bug 402967
  • Folders (UNCO) - Bug 436012

• cl's buglist
  • Bug 175748 - Need mechanism for creating new blank bookmarks
  • Bug 318931 - History/Bookmarks title changes but URL doesn't (maybe fixed by patch on Bug 438256?)
  • Bug 363664 - When right clicking on folder "Bookmark Info" should read "Folder Info"

• xpfe cleanup
  • see older Agendas if you're interested

Queries

Camino 2.0b1

• Blocking ? (4) [-1 since last week]
• Blocking + (1) [-2 since last week]
• Blocking - (11) [-1 since last week]

Camino 2.0b2

• Blocking ? (6) [-1 since last week]
• Blocking + (1) [unchanged]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]

• l10n (7) [-2 since last week]

Camino 2.0

• Bugs targeted at 2.0 (25) [+2 since last week]
• Blocking ? (7) [unchanged] (bugs not on the 2.0 list that need evaluation)
• Blocking + (1) [-1 since last week]
• Blocking - (0) [unchanged]
• Bugs without target (665) [-2 since last week]

• Bugs fixed since last meeting (15) [+8 since last week] (0 were 2.0-targeted [but several were blocking b1; 1 was relnotes, 1 was website/IT)

Queues

• Review (13) [unchanged] 1 untargeted
• Superreview (2) [-5 since last week]